[bcab] Re: Reading PDFs

Thanks David. The strange thing was that the pages behaved in this case as if they contained selectable text. I too can use FineReader to scan files, but it's another job during the day I could manage without! And this file came from Adobe ???? 

Vince.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Reynolds" <dkreynolds@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:17 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Reading PDFs



The  reason this is happening is due to the fact that the pdf is made up
of scanned bitmap images. The headings and page numbers are often in
text, but the actual body of each page is an image. The upshot of this
is that however good your screenreader, you won't get it to reead it. I
use finereader which will ocr a pdf and convert it to readable text, but
I have to admit such pdfs are a pain.

Dave.

rosemary


-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Vince Thacker
Sent: 30 November 2006 21:08
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Reading PDFs

Ian, for what it's worth, I tried it with Thunder. Normally, Thunder
will
cope pretty well if I select text in a PDF file and trigger the speech,
but
as soon as I selected most pages here, I had a warning that the page may
be
blank or be a graphic. Err, haven't come across quite that scenario
before!
Text either selects or there isn't any. This seems to be a bit of both -
I
don't understand how that could be, but that's what I've found.

Vince.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Crisp " <charlescrisp@xxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:23 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Reading PDFs



Ian

The pdf did not seem to read with Zoomtext Neospeech. The only parts

which

were readable were the side bar and the web links in the document.

As a matter of interest, I have had problems with some pdf but most

read

in
their entirety. Equipment manuals downloaded from web sites are

invaluable

for reading.

Kind regards

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Of Ian Litterick
Sent: 30 November 2006 17:45
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Reading PDFs

Hi all Jaws and Supernova users (or other V I screen reader users)
preferably on Broadband

I am doing some work on the readability of P D F documents with screen
readers for the British Dyslexia Association's Contact magazine and

our

web site. It may also be relevant for the Right to Read Campaign.

Adobe have a PDF on "Creating Accessible PDF Documents with Adobe
Acrobat" at
http://www.adobe.com/enterprise/accessibility/pdfs/acro7_pg_ue.pdf.

(Its

10MB)

I wonder if any Jaws or Supernova users would mind taking a look at it
for a couple of minutes for me. Can you hear it all? (because the T T

S

systems that I have used can't, including the Acrobat built in one.
Specifically can you hear:
Page 1 subhead lines 3 & 4 "A guide for publishing PDF . . ."
Page 2 the copyright & trademark notice
Page 3 Contents page line 4 + -- do you hear anything between

"Software

described in this guide 1" and "Acrobat system requirements 2"

Many Thanks in Anticipation for all feedback.

Ian Litterick
Executive Chairman
www.iansyst.co.uk
www.dyslexic.com


-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Booth, Alan
Sent: 30 November 2006 12:49
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Jaws friendly DVD rewriting software?

Aftermorning All

Can anyone recommend DVD writing software that is Jaws friendly

please?


Thanks

Alan






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