[bcab] Re: Question on learning Visual Basic with JAWS...

Thanks both!

Well, in terms of my previous experiance of programming I did some
very simple bits when I could still see on a Spectrum, in 'Basic', and
more recently did a very small bit in 'basic' under DOS' (I was blind
by this time and using HAL 5 for DOS), I've been to university and did
a Masters after my BSc in Biology, so I'm more than happy with online
texts and resources to teach myself from, so I don't think that bit
should be a problem. In some ways I'm not entirely sure what I want to
'get out' of learning programming, I guess in part to just be able to
understand more fully how it all works, and should I get good enough
at it maybe even produce a few useful things; A few times over the
last few years I've been doing something on the PC and thought, how,
in the DOS days I'd just have done a batch file to perform the task,
and at other times something which  I know a good programmer could
probably knock up a bit of code to perform the task easier than doing
it manually... Also, in terms of work, eventually I'd like to get on
to some of the more recent/complicated languages, as a lot of the job
ADverts now for jobs I'd otherwise consider in biological sciences are
wanting the applicant to have a programming language or two as well as
their biological sciences BSc Masters or PhD....

The link to the visual basic 2005 express would be really handy if you
could  find it, plus the JAWS scripts; I've seen a lot of stuff on VB
2005 on the net, so I think that is fairly well supported in terms of
guides and manuals etc, and from what I have read I think its 'basic'
enough to serve as an entry point for me to learning to programme,
whilst still having enough 'power' to it to take me some way into the
learning process.

I do have one friend who was a programmer  professionally but quite
some years  ago, I think once I'd got the  basics of it all he might
prove quite useful to talk about things with.

Cheers.

Mark


On 9/25/07, Medway, Phil - Corporate Core - ICT Services
<Phil.Medway@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> Your question is very difficult to answer without knowing roughly what level
> you have already attained.
>
> If you have decided that you definitely want to learn Visual basic and want
> to use it professionally, you almost certainly need to read up on the newer
> dot net technologies.
>
> If you don't yet know about the basics of all programming languages such as
> statements, variables, types etc. then you may need to look at something
> which can give you a bit of background in these things.
>
> There is a wiki book on programming in general at:
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming
>
> You will find a table of the various  elements of programming on this page
> that includes links to descriptions of the way in which each language
> approaches the subject.
>
> There is a free download of Visual basic 2005 express and blind programmers
> have developed some Jaws scripts to make it more accessible.  I don't have
> the links to hand at the moment but can post them if you are interested.
>
> I should add that I don't use Visual basic and haven't tried vs2005 myself.
>
> Resources to investigate include:
> http://www.programming.com where you will find a great many books, links and
> articles on various programming subjects along with instructions on
> subscribing to the blind programming mailing list.
>
> Also, http://www.empowermentzone.com where you will find further tutorials
> helpful programs and scripts for Visual basic 2005 which, if I remember
> correctly, is called something like "msenv2005.exe".
>
> Finally, I suggest that you try to find someone who already knows the
> language and can advise you on a day-to-day basis.
>
> Most programmers work in a team.
>
> It is very easy to hit a complete block when programming without another to
> bounce ideas off and receive suggestions from.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Phil Medway
>
> ICT accessibility developer
>
> Deployment team
>
> Core ICT
>
> Oxfordshire County Council
>
> Tel: 01869 347639
>
> Mobile: 07980 519990
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Mark Faben
> Sent: 24 September 2007 22:26
> To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bcab] Question on learning Visual Basic with JAWS...
>
>
> Hi everyone hope someone has experiance here of programmeing with
> using a Screenreader.
>
> I'm using JAWS version 7 under Windows XP, and I'd really like to
> finally get round to learning to programme, partly just for myself,
> and partly to aid in lookign for work. I've read a fair few things
> about Visual Basic and  other languages, and an awful lot seemed to
> suggest Visual Basic is a good language  to start with. Obviously,
> though using JAWS I need something that is accessable for me to use,
> so does anyone have experiance of JAWS and Visual Basic, and any
> suggestions on a good bit of software to use to do visual basic
> programmeing with JAWS?
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
> Mark
>
> --
> Mark Faben
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