[bcab] Re: Problems with a potential new employer

yes  you  give good advice a young man I  will not name fought a battle for
unfair dismissal and he won his case, it meant a big ordeal and a 3 day
Tribunal eventually  he was after many refusals offered a job, he was due to
start last October, but endless hitches have  caused a stumbling block first
the Company needed a person from RNib to link up with the  Company a large
Bank and the software  Suppliers,, let's say for  arguments sake he  uses
Jaws  date after date was postponed,  date of start was moved to January,
then to March, when I last heard it is July!! All he thinks is due to lack
of co-ordination between  those he must rely on however I asked him tell me
what are the terms and conditions have you seen a Contract of Employment, to
all these questions he has answered in the negative only saying "I am sure
they will find a spot for me and not let me down" I hope he  is right.
However re  America and  my  young lister friend lives in Bradford but in
the States      why  did the Amendment to the Civil Rights Act supposed  to
benefit VIP's backfire and  cause Employers  not to even consider giving a
job to a Vip?  stats show whereas  VIPs between 18 to 55 years had
previously a figure of seventy percent unemployment it rose to 85 percent as
Employers thought it was going to cost them something  Friend and he is
someone I do consider a friend is Chief Technician for a  piece of software
I rely on  I know he knows what he is talking about.  I am not talking Jaws
but  a product that  reads my mail tells me  what I am going to have for
lunch  'easy meals' and I know he would not  exaggerate as he said  you
could
drive an HGV through the equivalent of our DDA Act. Dorothy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Wilkins" <graham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:11 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Problems with a potential new employer



Most job offers have a 6 month probationary period, i.e. if you just can't
hack the work or prove to be unreliable, they can dismiss you without
penalties.  I would assume that this HR lady is deliberately being loose
with her language.  A word with her superior may help - "just to clarify
the
matter".  The other option is to go back to the person who headed the
interview panel to check whether your post is conditional.
Graham W

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Dj Paddy
Sent: 22 March 2007 13:46
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Problems with a potential new employer

Hi all.

I'm looking for some advice.

Back in December I interviewed for a job with an IT company here in
Belfast.

My role is to be a Systems Engineer.

I'm finding HR very legalistic and at points awkward.

The lady from HR who is dealing with acommadations for me I'm finding a
wirlwind to speak to and at times quite intimadating.

I've a fair idea that the technical team, (who I'll be working with), will
be fine once I'm in the position but the lady from

HR keeps stressing to me I've not been made a full offer.  I've been made
an
offer on a conditional basis.

The condition being that they can see I can practically do the job.

I was just speaking to the lady from HR and she's quite annoyed and is
quite
forceful that I understand and that RNIB

understand that this is  a conditional offer.

She's also quite annoyed at the length of time the whole process of access
to work is taking.  i explained to her I find this

too frustrating and unfortunately it's the way it goes and it's out of my
control to push it faster!

I thought telling her this would at least let her see it's not my doing,
but
she just sortive said, "Yeah ok but I'm still

pissed off", without actually saying that.

I just found this last thing inappropriate to complain to me about.

I don't feel comfortable talking to this lady and I don't want to hit them
in the face with the DDA.  This would be an

excellent company to work for and I'm afraid if I say anything to the lady
I'm having problems with I'll rock the boat so to

speak.

RNIB are involved for the technical asessement and I've just got a phone
call from them wanting to arrange a time that they

can meet with people from the company and myself to do this asessement.

This might be what happens in the scary world of work for VI's but it's
bugging me.

I know I could be very hardline and contact the lady from HR and ask her
to
justify the conditional offer.  I could ask her

if other candadates where offered a conditional offer and if they then
they
are discriminating against me.

I passed the interview with flying colours and correct me if I'm wrong
that
is what they should have been basing an offer on?

This lady I'm finding can be so forceful that you almost have to be rude
yourself to get a word in!

Any thoughts?

Cheers
Barry

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