[bcab] Re: Netbooks

Hi Grahamk,

Even comparing the Wind to the 4211 shows that the keyboards are different.

All the best

Steve

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From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Graham Page
Sent: Friday 28 November 2008 10:17
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Subject: [bcab] Re: Netbooks

Hi Steve.

Specifically the advent 4211 and 4211C are definitely MSI winds.  Just have 
a look at a few reviews for a start.

There is however a later model, the 4213 which is certainly not an  MSI 
wind.  It is somewhat more expensive, about £50 or so dearer I think and it 
does as you say have a different keyboard which to my way of thinking is 
rather spongy.  a step backwards I would say.  You do get built in Broadband

mobile however and there is a slot in the PC for a sim card.

Cheers

Graham
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:41 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Netbooks


> Hi Graham,
>
> The Advent is not the MSI Wind.  They are different beasts.  The MSI Wind
> has a slightly better keyboard in my view.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Graham Page
> Sent: Wednesday 26 November 2008 10:12
> To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bcab] Re: Netbooks
>
> Hi Tim.
>
> Firstly, no I don't think you are asking too much at all.  I have an 
> Advent
> 4211 netbook from PCWorld.  I use this as a note taking device while out 
> and
>
> about as I currently do not have any kind of Braille note taker.  It does
> take some time to boot but that is not normally a problem.  I use it at 
> home
>
> running Skype and  Windows Messenger.  I can still edit Microsoft Office
> documents using Office 2003 while these programs are still running.  I can
> also listen to MP3 files with Winamp or Windows Media Player.  I have not
> tried DVDs but I am told they work Fine with an external player as you 
> say.
>
> most of the netbooks for £200 such as the Asus EEEPC range up to the Asus
> EEEPC 900 have 8.5 inch screens and a relatively small keyboard which some
> still find to be OK.  Personally I prefer the keyboards on the slightly
> bigger models with 10 inch screens such as the AdventPC 4211 or the 
> Samsung
> NC10 or the Asus EEEPC 1000.  You can go to Curries or PC World and get a
> feel of these laptops for yourself.  The staff know nothing about these
> systems in my experience but at least you will be able to have a hands on.
>
> The Advent 4211 which I have is also marketed as the MSI Wind and there is
> also a modle produced by a company called Median or something like that. 
> It
>
> has a good keyboard and it is easy to disable the mouse pad which is a 
> must
> on these machines.  The only problem is battery life which is about 2 
> hours.
>
> You can get bigger batteries than the 3 cell battery supplied.  I bought a

> 9
>
> cell battery but this is really too big as it sticks a long way out of the
> bottom.  A 6 cell giving just over 4 hours would have been a much better
> compromise I think.  With the 3 dell battery the price is £279.00 from PC
> World or Curries.  They also do an Advent 4213 which has built in Mobile
> Broadband access and includes a slot for a sim card.  At £349.00 or
> something like that it's a bit pricey and I think it feels plasticky as 
> well
>
> but that's just my opinion of course.
>
> The one that everyone is in to at the moment seems to be the Samsung NC10
> which has very similar specifications to the Advent 4211 but with a 6 cell
> battery and much better battery life lasting roughly 7 hours in tests. 
> With
>
> speech running and connected to a WiFi network you should get over 5 hours
> of battery life.
>
> I have not yet been able to get hands on a Samsung NC10 so I can't say 
> which
>
> I prefer from a design and ergonomic point of view.  I do know that the 
> NC10
>
> is available in white, blue or black and for some reason the white model
> costs about £30 more than the others which cost £399 from Curries or PC
> World.
>
> All these 10 inch models have similar specifications.  They have the new
> Intel Atom processor.  I've had a tempory mind blank on the exact model 
> name
>
> of it.  It runs at a speed of 1.6 GHz and employs multithreading 
> technology
> used in some Pentium processors.  It is efficient and is the main reason 
> why
>
> battery life has increased on laptops using it.  There is 1 GB of RAM
> provided which works well for general day to day tasks.  This can be
> increased to 2 GB I think.  You also get 3 USB ports and an SD card 
> reader.
> Bluetooth and WiFI come as standard.  Most are not yet draft-n but they 
> are
> fast enough for most purposes.
>
> If I were you I would look at the Samsung NC10 or the Advent 4211.
>
> Regards
>
> Graham
>
> The Asus EEEPC1000 is also pretty good though at £
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <tim.pennick@xxxxxx>
> To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:10 AM
> Subject: [bcab] Netbooks
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> A recent reference to Netbooks on this list set me thinking.  A colleague
> recently bought a netbook for round about 200£ which I though was a bit of

> a
>
> bargain, seeing as the laptop I use, which is only about 18 months old, 
> cost
>
> in the region of 1200.  The laptop really struggles with JAWS, and I
> wondered what peoples' experiences with Netbooks had been.
>
> I want to be able to run MS Office, or cut-dow version thereof, Outlook
> Express, Wi-Fi, stream audio, possibly play DVDs, (probably via external 
> DVD
>
> drive), and possibly run the Nebula Digi-TV TV tuner on it.  Am I asking 
> too
>
> much if I'm running JAWS as well?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim
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