[bcab] Re: Netbooks

Hello Isaac

I suppose one big worry with mobile kit that plugs together is that often
the plugs get a bit wobbly as the stuff gets older, and cables always seem
to tangle worse than garden hose.

That aside - whats all this about "good for such small speakers"? No
compromise, man! <smile>

Regards
Tony


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Isaac Porat" <isaac@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:55 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Netbooks


> Hello Tony
>
> I use a pair of USB mobile Logitech speakers which I got from Argos for
> about £25.
> These speakers come with a little carrying bag, they measure about 3 * 1.5
> inches and they draw power from the laptop.
> The quality is surprisingly good for such small speakers.
>
> Regards
> Isaac
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Tony Dart
> Sent: 27 November 2008 18:39
> To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bcab] Re: Netbooks
>
> Hello
>
> Many thanks for your replies, Mel, Graham and Roger. I took a quick look
at
> Altec Lansings site as I have never heardof them and one product they do
> that looks quite interesting is a thin speaker called a SoundBlade that
> works with BlueTooth. About £90. This looks as though it has possibilities
> as they can be run off the mains or batteries, and the quality would
> probably be OK for speech (I don't use SpeakOn for music, juist reading).
>
> A netBook with a really good flat speaker instead of a screen would be a
> fantastic media machine, though...
>
> Roger, I've got a BlueTooth donglethat was about £20 but it is a USB
device
> thatmakes a non-BlueTooth PC able to send/receive BlueTooth - I can't see
> how it could be connected to the hi-fi. Or is there another kind with
audio
> output?
>
> Tony
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Woolgrove" <rawoolgrove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:40 PM
> Subject: [bcab] Re: Netbooks
>
>
> > Hi Tony,
> >
> > I bought a blue tooth dongle a couple of years ago from PC world for
> around
> > £20.  Guess they should be cheaper now.  Can't remember the make or
> anything
> > now.  I don't have it anymore but have asked the guy who now owns it but
> > he's not quick to respond.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tony Dart" <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:16 AM
> > Subject: [bcab] Re: Netbooks
> >
> >
> > > Hello
> > > One slight downside of the Advent 4211 is the awful speakers. It's a
> > > fantastic machine for mobile reading - using it with SpeakOn has meant
> > > that
> > > my BookCourier is pretty well redundant, andwith an infra-red numeric
> pad
> > > I
> > > can download and enjoy high-quality (or at least, Daniel-quality!)
> reading
> > > in armchair comfort.
> > >
> > > Does anyne know of a wireless (Bluetooth?) device to link a Netbook to
a
> > > hi-fi? That would be the final link in the search for perfection.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:35 PM
> > > Subject: [bcab] Re: Netbooks
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi.
> > >>
> > >> Those Asus 901 machines are quite a good choice but a friend bought
one
> > > and
> > >> had a problem turning off the mouse pad.  It got damaged before I
could
> > > look
> > >> at it myself but that's another story.
> > >>
> > >> How did you disable the mouse pad on yours or did you not have to?
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Graham
> > >> Graham Page
> > >> Home Phone: 0207 265 9493
> > >> Mobile: 07753 607980
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> > >> Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: "Léonie Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:47 PM
> > >> Subject: [bcab] Re: Netbooks
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > I've found my Asus 901 to be a good choice. The hard drive is small
> > >> > at just 12Gb, but that suits me very well. It's very light at 1.1Kg
> and
> > >> > small enough to fit neatly into my bag.
> > >> >
> > >> > It's got theusual array of wireless, bluetooth, USB, integrated web
> > >> > cam etc. Battery runs between five and seven hours, depending on
how
> > > much
> > >> > the wireless is being used. Léonie.
> > >> >
> > >> > Léonie.
> > >> > -- 
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> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> > >> > Behalf
> > >> > Of Graham Page
> > >> > Sent: 26 November 2008 10:12
> > >> > To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > Subject: [bcab] Re: Netbooks
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi Tim.
> > >> >
> > >> > Firstly, no I don't think you are asking too much at all.  I have
an
> > >> > Advent
> > >> > 4211 netbook from PCWorld.  I use this as a note taking device
while
> > >> > out
> > >> > and
> > >> > about as I currently do not have any kind of Braille note taker.
It
> > > does
> > >> > take some time to boot but that is not normally a problem.  I use
it
> at
> > >> > home
> > >> > running Skype and  Windows Messenger.  I can still edit Microsoft
> > >> > Office
> > >> > documents using Office 2003 while these programs are still running.
> I
> > > can
> > >> > also listen to MP3 files with Winamp or Windows Media Player.  I
have
> > > not
> > >> > tried DVDs but I am told they work Fine with an external player as
> you
> > >> > say.
> > >> >
> > >> > most of the netbooks for £200 such as the Asus EEEPC range up to
the
> > > Asus
> > >> > EEEPC 900 have 8.5 inch screens and a relatively small keyboard
which
> > > some
> > >> > still find to be OK.  Personally I prefer the keyboards on the
> slightly
> > >> > bigger models with 10 inch screens such as the AdventPC 4211 or the
> > >> > Samsung
> > >> > NC10 or the Asus EEEPC 1000.  You can go to Curries or PC World and
> get
> > > a
> > >> > feel of these laptops for yourself.  The staff know nothing about
> these
> > >> > systems in my experience but at least you will be able to have a
> hands
> > > on.
> > >> >
> > >> > The Advent 4211 which I have is also marketed as the MSI Wind and
> there
> > > is
> > >> > also a modle produced by a company called Median or something like
> > >> > that.
> > >> > It
> > >> > has a good keyboard and it is easy to disable the mouse pad which
is
> a
> > >> > must
> > >> > on these machines.  The only problem is battery life which is about
2
> > >> > hours.
> > >> >
> > >> > You can get bigger batteries than the 3 cell battery supplied.  I
> > >> > bought
> > > a
> > >> > 9
> > >> > cell battery but this is really too big as it sticks a long way out
> of
> > > the
> > >> > bottom.  A 6 cell giving just over 4 hours would have been a much
> > >> > better
> > >> > compromise I think.  With the 3 dell battery the price is £279.00
> from
> > > PC
> > >> > World or Curries.  They also do an Advent 4213 which has built in
> > >> > Mobile
> > >> > Broadband access and includes a slot for a sim card.  At £349.00 or
> > >> > something like that it's a bit pricey and I think it feels
plasticky
> as
> > >> > well
> > >> > but that's just my opinion of course.
> > >> >
> > >> > The one that everyone is in to at the moment seems to be the
Samsung
> > > NC10
> > >> > which has very similar specifications to the Advent 4211 but with a
6
> > > cell
> > >> > battery and much better battery life lasting roughly 7 hours in
> tests.
> > >> > With
> > >> > speech running and connected to a WiFi network you should get over
5
> > > hours
> > >> > of battery life.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have not yet been able to get hands on a Samsung NC10 so I can't
> say
> > >> > which
> > >> > I prefer from a design and ergonomic point of view.  I do know that
> the
> > >> > NC10
> > >> > is available in white, blue or black and for some reason the white
> > >> > model
> > >> > costs about £30 more than the others which cost £399 from Curries
or
> PC
> > >> > World.
> > >> >
> > >> > All these 10 inch models have similar specifications.  They have
the
> > >> > new
> > >> > Intel Atom processor.  I've had a tempory mind blank on the exact
> model
> > >> > name
> > >> > of it.  It runs at a speed of 1.6 GHz and employs multithreading
> > >> > technology
> > >> > used in some Pentium processors.  It is efficient and is the main
> > >> > reason
> > >> > why
> > >> > battery life has increased on laptops using it.  There is 1 GB of
RAM
> > >> > provided which works well for general day to day tasks.  This can
be
> > >> > increased to 2 GB I think.  You also get 3 USB ports and an SD card
> > >> > reader.
> > >> > Bluetooth and WiFI come as standard.  Most are not yet draft-n but
> they
> > >> > are
> > >> > fast enough for most purposes.
> > >> >
> > >> > If I were you I would look at the Samsung NC10 or the Advent 4211.
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards
> > >> >
> > >> > Graham
> > >> >
> > >> > The Asus EEEPC1000 is also pretty good though at £
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: <tim.pennick@xxxxxx>
> > >> > To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:10 AM
> > >> > Subject: [bcab] Netbooks
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi All,
> > >> >
> > >> > A recent reference to Netbooks on this list set me thinking.  A
> > > colleague
> > >> > recently bought a netbook for round about 200£ which I though was a
> bit
> > > of
> > >> > a
> > >> >
> > >> > bargain, seeing as the laptop I use, which is only about 18 months
> old,
> > >> > cost
> > >> >
> > >> > in the region of 1200.  The laptop really struggles with JAWS, and
I
> > >> > wondered what peoples' experiences with Netbooks had been.
> > >> >
> > >> > I want to be able to run MS Office, or cut-dow version thereof,
> Outlook
> > >> > Express, Wi-Fi, stream audio, possibly play DVDs, (probably via
> > >> > external
> > >> > DVD
> > >> >
> > >> > drive), and possibly run the Nebula Digi-TV TV tuner on it.  Am I
> > >> > asking
> > >> > too
> > >> >
> > >> > much if I'm running JAWS as well?
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Tim
> > >> >
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