[bcab] Re: Lotus notes 7

Hi, don't know if this helps, but here's some helpful hints on using Lotus Notes with JAWS 9. I got this from the JAWS help system. Lotus Notes Helpful Hints Note: When working with large documents, maximize all windows and child types. This should be done frequently when reading or editing documents. To maximize all active windows use ALT+SPACEBAR, X. To maximize the active child window use ALT+DASH, X.

Using JAWS with Lotus Notes
Lotus Notes Controls
Navigation Through Lotus Notes
The Inline Notes Browser
Dialogs: In File - Preferences - User Preferences
Browser
Read-Only Documents
Miscellaneous
Configuring Lotus Notes
Configuring the Notes Workspace

Using JAWS With Lotus Notes
This section provides a general description of how to use Lotus Notes with JAWS and some general Lotus Notes information.

Note: On the Task bar Properties dialog, uncheck the check box Always On Top. This allows the Task bar to be visible. This is to allow for the document windows to maximize properly.

Sometimes it seems that JAWS gets stuck while you are reading a document in read mode. This happens if you get new mail or the status line changes. To work around this, press ESC and then ENTER to return to the document.

Sometimes JAWS seems to lose focus in Notes. This may be because a Properties dialog box is open. Press INSERT+F10 to check if Info.dll is running. If it is, switch to it and then press ALT+ENTER to close the dialog box.

Reading Changes on the Status Bar
When information that appears on the status bar changes, JAWS automatically announces it. If you do not want JAWS to announce changes on the status bar, press INSERT+V, select "Reading Status Line," and press the SPACEBAR to choose "Off." This setting is saved and remains in effect even if you switch to another program or quit Lotus Notes.

If this verbosity option is enabled, JAWS may say, "Untagged," when you read text that does not have a language tag. If you do not want to hear this announcement, do the following:

From the File menu, choose Preferences.
Press the RIGHT ARROW key, and then choose Status Bar Preferences.
Select "Language" and press the SPACEBAR to uncheck this option.
Press ENTER to accept your changes and close the dialog box.
Lotus Notes Controls
All files, documents, and databases are arranged on the screen in what Lotus Notes calls Line Views. JAWS refers to them as Tree Views and acts upon them in JAWS' Standard fashion, i.e. speaking Tree view levels, announcing level changes.

Most forms appear in the Lotus Notes Document classes. In many cases, these are single windows with embedded controls spoken by MSAA (Microsoft Active Accessibility).

Navigation Through Lotus Notes
To navigate between the available windows in Lotus Notes databases that are open, press CTRL+TAB and CTRL+SHIFT+TAB respectively. To navigate between the frames on a given database or the Welcome page, press F6.

To navigate within a Line view between the available documents, use the UP/DOWN ARROW keys. Use LEFT/RIGHT ARROW keys to open and close the selected folder. The Lotus keystrokes are actually the PLUS and MINUS keys on the keypad, and for this reason the LEFT/RIGHT ARROW keys have been determined to handle this.

To navigate between the icons on a Graphic frame or to move between the links and embedded objects within a read-only document, press INSERT+Z and use the LEFT/RIGHT ARROW keys. When you are finished navigating, press INSERT+Z again.

The Inline Notes Browser
The Inline Browser works, for the most part, like Internet Explorer. Press INSERT+F7 to get a list of links, press INSERT+F5 to reformat the Web page.

To use Internet Explorer instead of the Notes browser:

From the File menu, choose Mobile, Edit Current Location.
A document opens. Press CTRL+PAGE DOWN four times until you hear JAWS say, "Choose the web browser you want to use to view web pages." The keystrokes CTRL+PAGE DOWN and PAGE UP allow you to move through multi-page forms and dialog boxes in Lotus Notes. Press SPACEBAR to cycle through the choices until you hear, "Internet Explorer." Press ESC to close the document. Press SPACEBAR on the Yes button when Notes asks if you want to save your changes.
Bookmarks
To access a tree view of Lotus Notes bookmarks, you must first edit the Notes.ini file. This file is normally located in C:\Lotus\Notes\Notes.ini. Open this file in Notepad and change the first two lines so they look like the lines below:

[Notes]
AllowBookmarkFocus=1

Save the modified file. You can now press ALT+B from within Lotus Notes to display bookmarks in a tree view.

Dialogs: In File - Preferences - User Preferences
This is an example but may appear in dialogs with many TAB controls and pages. Press one of the buttons, such as Basics, International, etc., with the SPACEBAR. As you tab through the dialog, periodically the type and text of the Dialog itself is re-spoken. Example: "User Preferences Dialog Basics Button." This performance is rare and sporadic. Currently, to hear the contents of the combo box within a dialog as its value changes, do not press ALT+DOWN ARROW to open the list box. Press the UP and DOWN ARROW keys as with any standard edit combo list or box.

Browser
When a page is first loaded in a new browser session using the inline Notes with Internet Explorer browser, you may hear the first line or two of the page being read followed by an interruption of about half a second, followed by a normal browser reading. This does not happen when links are selected, or a new URL is typed in. It happens when JAWS manually places the focus into the browser window, which by default does not have focus when it first appears on the screen.

Read-Only Documents
JAWS uses the Virtual PC Cursor to read Read-Only documents to you. Navigation while the Virtual PC Cursor is active is similar to that in Internet Explorer 5.x. Please visit Using the Virtual PC Cursor to learn more about this feature.

You may encounter a time delay between the text being drawn to the screen and being automatically spoken. When this happens, it is generally upon opening a document. Subsequent pressing of PAGE UP and PAGE DOWN do not present this performance issue.

Miscellaneous
There may be occasions when the message "Graphic Frame" is spoken while focus is in the process of changing. This message is used when the focus lands on specific frames with no textual content. When these frames regain focus, however, their content or the focused icon is spoken. Example: "Graphic Frame Mail."

Configuring Lotus Notes
Perform the following to make Lotus Notes more compatible with JAWS.

Start Lotus Notes. From the File menu, choose Preferences, User Preferences.
Press TAB until you move to the Colors combo box.
Set the icon color scheme to system color.
Press TAB until you move to a multiple selection list box
Unselect Textured Workspace and Make Notes the Default Web Browser on My System.
Select the following:
Show Extended Accelerators
Display Window Menu (Notes 6 only). This option allows you to use a Window menu in much the same way as a standard application. Standard Dialog Boxes (Notes 6 only). This option displays standard operating system dialog boxes instead of Notes custom dialog boxes. Use TAB to Navigate Read-only Documents (Notes 6 only). Selecting this option lets you use TAB to move between objects (e.g., linked text, hotspots, document links, etc.) in a read-only document. However, with this option enabled, you can no longer use TAB while reading a document to navigate to the next document in the view. Use Accessibility Keyboard Navigation (Notes 6 only). This disables the UP and DOWN ARROW keys and lets you use TAB to move between fields in a document in edit mode. Note that when you are in a rich text field, such as a document body, and there are fields above and below it, you must use the arrow keys to move to the previous or next field because TAB is used to create indents and tab stops in a Notes rich text field.
Use System Colors (Notes 6 only)
Press SPACEBAR on the OK button.
Note: If Notes warns you that some options will not be used until you start Notes, quit Notes and then restart it.

Configuring the Notes Workspace
If you are a Lotus Notes 4.x user and you would prefer to use the workspace instead of the welcome page and bookmarks, perform the following:

Press ALT+B to access the bookmarks.
Press DOWN ARROW until you hear, "Databases."
Press ENTER.
Press DOWN ARROW until you hear, "Workspace."
Press INSERT+NUM PAD MINUS to route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor and press NUM PAD ASTERISK. Press DOWN ARROW until you hear, "Set bookmark as home page." Press ENTER. When Notes asks if you want to make the workspace your new home page, press ENTER. To make the workspace function better with JAWS, open the View menu and perform the following:
Uncheck Stack Replica Icons.
Uncheck Show Unread Count.
Check Show Server.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "LU" <oluogbe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:53 AM
Subject: [bcab] Lotus notes 7


Hello,
Please does anyone know how I can create/ edit a button in a document in Lotus notes 7 using JAWS 9 ? I can access the button menu but I can't get to the part where I am meant to paste the link that will be triggered upon clicking the document. Sighted users can see the text field which seems to be a sub menu of the button menu but JAWS does not read anything out to me. Also, if anyone has any advice or manual apart from the JAWS help topics for Lotus Notes 7, I will really appreciate if they can let me have a read through. Thanks in advance.
Sincerely,
Olu Ogbe
Portsmouth, UK
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bcab Digest Tue, 29 Jul 2008 Volume: 03  Issue: 217

In This Issue:
[bcab] tiger Braille embossers and printing graphics
[bcab] IBM Social Accessibility Project
[bcab] Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.
[bcab] Re: Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.
[bcab] Re: Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.
[bcab] Re: Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.
[bcab] Secure/private flash drive
[bcab] Re: Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.

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From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bcab] tiger Braille embossers and printing graphics
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:45:25 +0100

Hi all.
Has anyone had experience of the Tiger range of embossers for printing Braille material that uses graphics?

I have been asked about whether the Tiger braille embosser could be used to print out a graph produced in Excel. My initial reaction is that this may not be possible without considerable editing and rescaling from a third party to ensure that written information fits properly. Also, while I know the Tiger can produce graphics, I don't know what the limitations of this ability are.

If anyone has experience of this kind of work I would be interested to know about it.

Regards

Graham
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Subject: [bcab] IBM Social Accessibility Project
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:50:05 +0100
From: "Plumpton, Steve [BTCS]" <Steve.Plumpton@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi folks

Picked this up elsewhere.

The Social Accessibility Project is a service whose goal is to make
Web pages more accessible to people with disabilities. The service
gathers users' input and uses the power of the open community while
not changing any existing content.
This pilot service focuses on users of screen readers. Users
encountering Web access problems anywhere at any time can immediately
report problems to the Social Accessibility server. Volunteers (called
supporters) can be quickly notified and can easily respond by creating
and publishing the requested accessibility metadata, which will help
other users who encounter the same problems. Users themselves are also
allowed to improve accessibility of pages by sharing landmarks on a
page.

Sign up at http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/socialaccessibility/

---
Steve Plumpton (BTCS Project Officer)

0121 665 4255
steve.plumpton@xxxxxxxxxxx
www.rnib.org.uk/btcs

Digital Accessibility Team
RNIB
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Subject: [bcab] Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:00:47 +0100
From: <Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi All.

I've recently been hearing a lot about the Braille Sense and Voice Sense
from Gwmicro.

How do they compare to say the Braille/voice note or the packmate?
Are they a closed platform like the Braille/voice note where what you
get is specifically designed for the device so works very well or is it
more like the packmate where it's just a screen reader on a PDA?
Can you get a QWERTY keyboard built in or is it just Braille input?
Who sells them in the UK and where would I get a price list?

Thanks for any info.
Cheers.
Nick.





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From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bcab] Re: Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:12:57 +0100

My understanding is that they are based on Windows 2005 but accept my
appologies if I am wrong about this. I have only seen the braille versions
of these products.  The company that sells them in the UK is Force ten.

A key issue with products like this is support. If the Braille Sense goes wrong, what kind of support can you get? Does force Ten have staff that can give you support that are based in the office or is it likely that you will
have to wait a day or 2 if staff are training or out at exhibitions?

I recently visited force Ten's site and I have to say I found the
accessibility very poor with unlabled graphics and a general lack of propper
use of headings, tables etc.  Maybe I visited the wrong site but see what
you think.  Also contact force ten perhaps and ask more questions.

Regards

Graham
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To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: [bcab] Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.


Hi All.

I've recently been hearing a lot about the Braille Sense and Voice Sense
from Gwmicro.

How do they compare to say the Braille/voice note or the packmate?
Are they a closed platform like the Braille/voice note where what you
get is specifically designed for the device so works very well or is it
more like the packmate where it's just a screen reader on a PDA?
Can you get a QWERTY keyboard built in or is it just Braille input?
Who sells them in the UK and where would I get a price list?

Thanks for any info.
Cheers.
Nick.





Nick Adamson
Software Engineer
General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited

Email: nick.adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Tel: 01495 236467
http://www.generaldynamics.uk.com

General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited
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From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bcab] Re: Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:08:22 +0100


Hi, Microlink PC (UK) LTD also supply them in the UK. The Voice Sense, at
£1300 is much cheaper. I can't remember if there is a querty of that, but
I'm pretty sure there is for the Braille Sense. I had a look at their whole
range at Sight Village and was very impressed with the size of everything
and the price. The notetakers include all the usuals, calendar, contacts,
word processor, internet, msn messenger etc. How these individual things
work I'm not sure, but it all looked pretty intuitive and menu driven from
the quick look I had.

Cheers
Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: <Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: [bcab] Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.


Hi All.

I've recently been hearing a lot about the Braille Sense and Voice Sense
from Gwmicro.

How do they compare to say the Braille/voice note or the packmate?
Are they a closed platform like the Braille/voice note where what you
get is specifically designed for the device so works very well or is it
more like the packmate where it's just a screen reader on a PDA?
Can you get a QWERTY keyboard built in or is it just Braille input?
Who sells them in the UK and where would I get a price list?

Thanks for any info.
Cheers.
Nick.





Nick Adamson
Software Engineer
General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited

Email: nick.adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Tel: 01495 236467
http://www.generaldynamics.uk.com

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Units 3 & 4,
Oakdale Business Park,
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:02:45 -0600
From: CJ <homemail1@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bcab] Re: Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.

You can do many things simultaneously on the Braille sense. You can
browse the internet while listening to mp3s. Or write a word document
while editing audio etc. You can't do that on the other notetakers.
You can do GPS while writing notes. Also, the service and support is
superior. I use a Braille Sense 32, and if  anyone wants one also, I
also have an extra I have not ended up having to use since they are so
reliable. I can sell it for 1450 pounds, and it is like new.

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Dave Taylor <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi, Microlink PC (UK) LTD also supply them in the UK. The Voice Sense, at £1300 is much cheaper. I can't remember if there is a querty of that, but I'm pretty sure there is for the Braille Sense. I had a look at their whole range at Sight Village and was very impressed with the size of everything and the price. The notetakers include all the usuals, calendar, contacts,
word processor, internet, msn messenger etc. How these individual things
work I'm not sure, but it all looked pretty intuitive and menu driven from
the quick look I had.

Cheers
Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: <Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: [bcab] Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.


Hi All.

I've recently been hearing a lot about the Braille Sense and Voice Sense
from Gwmicro.

How do they compare to say the Braille/voice note or the packmate?
Are they a closed platform like the Braille/voice note where what you
get is specifically designed for the device so works very well or is it
more like the packmate where it's just a screen reader on a PDA?
Can you get a QWERTY keyboard built in or is it just Braille input?
Who sells them in the UK and where would I get a price list?

Thanks for any info.
Cheers.
Nick.





Nick Adamson
Software Engineer
General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited

Email: nick.adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Tel: 01495 236467
http://www.generaldynamics.uk.com

General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited
Bryn Brithdir,
Units 3 & 4,
Oakdale Business Park,
Oakdale,
South Wales,
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Subject: [bcab] Secure/private flash drive
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:28:42 +0100
From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>

I'm trying to identify a pen drive that comes with privacy software, so
that you can set up a password without which the pen drive contents
cannot be accessed. I've come across a few of these, but none which
don't have greater or lesser issues when it comes to keyboard use. I'm
wondering if anyone has any thoughts about a good candidate for further
testing?

Please note that this needs to be software that lives on the pen drive;
I'm not looking for something like TrueCrypt that allows you to encrypt
information and then place it on the drive.

If anyone is a guru on these devices, I've looked at the Kingston Data
Traveller Secure Privacy Flash Drive and thought it was very nice except
that some of the features aren't accessible with the keyboard. If I
could come up with something like that, but fully keyboard accessible,
I'd be happy.

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From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bcab] Re: Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:30:13 +0100

Hi,

Some of this post is factually incorrect. You can also do GPS while writing notes on the Braille Note. On the BT versions, backspace with Enter with W to get into the Word Processor from anywhere, then backspace with enter with
N to get back to navigation, and GPS keeps right on running.

Just thought I'd point that out, since this post gives incorrect impressions of the Braillenote's power. You can also be on the web and go back to the
word processor in a similar manner.  Or do any other task.

You can only do two simultaneously, but that ought to be enough for anyone.

Oh yes, and you can listen to an MP3 and browse the net as well.

On the down side, you can't do MSN with Braillenote.

All the best

Steve

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Of CJ
Sent: Tuesday 29 July 2008 17:03
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.

You can do many things simultaneously on the Braille sense. You can
browse the internet while listening to mp3s. Or write a word document
while editing audio etc. You can't do that on the other notetakers.
You can do GPS while writing notes. Also, the service and support is
superior. I use a Braille Sense 32, and if  anyone wants one also, I
also have an extra I have not ended up having to use since they are so
reliable. I can sell it for 1450 pounds, and it is like new.

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Dave Taylor <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi, Microlink PC (UK) LTD also supply them in the UK. The Voice Sense, at £1300 is much cheaper. I can't remember if there is a querty of that, but
I'm pretty sure there is for the Braille Sense. I had a look at their
whole
range at Sight Village and was very impressed with the size of everything and the price. The notetakers include all the usuals, calendar, contacts,
word processor, internet, msn messenger etc. How these individual things
work I'm not sure, but it all looked pretty intuitive and menu driven from
the quick look I had.

Cheers
Dave

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To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: [bcab] Opinions on the Voice Sense from GWMicro.


Hi All.

I've recently been hearing a lot about the Braille Sense and Voice Sense
from Gwmicro.

How do they compare to say the Braille/voice note or the packmate?
Are they a closed platform like the Braille/voice note where what you
get is specifically designed for the device so works very well or is it
more like the packmate where it's just a screen reader on a PDA?
Can you get a QWERTY keyboard built in or is it just Braille input?
Who sells them in the UK and where would I get a price list?

Thanks for any info.
Cheers.
Nick.





Nick Adamson
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General Dynamics United Kingdom Limited

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