[bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7

Hi Dave,

Just install the beta of 5.5, then head on over to
http://www.gwmicro.com/beta and get the 6.0 Beta 1.  It will work as a demo,
but it will be the beta of 6.0, and it includes the JAWS layout.

All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Taylor
Sent: 29 October 2006 20:33
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7

Steve,

I did get a demo last night. The latest version for the demo is 5.5 and I
only saw classic, laptop and vocaleyes layouts in there.  However, I shall
contact you off list.

Cheers
Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: [bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7


> Hi Dave,
>
> It must be a long time since you have tried WE then.  Not only does it 
> have
> a JAWS layout, so you don't even have to remember new keystrokes, it works
> with MSN, Windows Messenger, and Live Messenger.  Its excel support in my
> view is at least as good as JFW, if not better, its word support in my 
> view,
> is better than JFW, and if you say you are not happy with JFW 7.1, then
> maybe it could be worth a look again.  You can get a free demo, so it may 
> be
> worth having a play again.  To get to the JFW layout, just hit the 
> keyboard
> menu, and you'll find it in there.
>
> All the best
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Dave Taylor
> Sent: 29 October 2006 00:30
> To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7
>
> That's all very well, and I agree they should get their finger out, but I 
> am
> still on v7.0 because it's the most recent one I have managed to make 
> work,
> though I think I've now learned how to rewrite the default.jkm file to 
> make
> the keyboard work on later versions. But I have all the clutter that goes
> with Jaws now. There is so much stuff that is completely unnecesary. 
> Trouble
> is, I simply cannot get my head round Window Eyes. I have tried time and
> time again, and I just can't get the performance or memorise the 
> keystrokes
> that I can in Jaws.  Neither can I afford to keep updating them both, so
> I've been concentrating on Jaws because that's what we all know if our
> house. I've found that in v7.1 list boxes don't read anything out a lot of
> the time and things like that, so have had to turn it off and go back to
> v7.0.  I'm now really out of date with WE but I do use Excell for various
> things and I never did like WE's performance in that.  I just want a 
> screen
> reader I can actually use that doesn't lave loads of broken features and
> does things like read messages automatically in MSN etc, and last I knew, 
> WE
> couldn't even do that!
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 4:29 PM
> Subject: [bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7
>
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I think the better method would be to contact Freedom Sci and tell them 
>> to
>> get on with supporting it.  Window-Eyes supports it very well already,
>> even
>> with Version 5.5, but the public beta of Version 6 supports it even
>> better.
>>
>> IE7 is much slicker, much faster, and tabbed browsing is tremendous.  So
>> let's not talk about not getting it, let's talk about better support for
>> it
>> from the screen reader vendors that don't yet support it, and should.
>> Betas
>> for it have been out for a while now, so Free Sci should have a handle on
>> it
>> by now.
>>
>> All the best
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Griffiths, Steve
>> Sent: 28 October 2006 12:51
>> To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7
>>
>> Wendy and others,
>>
>> My understanding is that Internet Explorer 7 is going to come out as a
>> Windows update in early November. To prevent it automatically being
>> installed, you need to turn off the Auomatic Update feature within
>> Windows.
>> Here is how to do that with Windows XP.
>>
>> Open the Start menu and choose Control Panel. If Control Panel isn't on
>> the
>> Start menu, choose Settings and then Control Panel.
>>
>> Move down to Automatic Updates and press Enter.
>>
>> Tab to a series of radio buttons and choose anything except "Automatic
>> (recommended)".
>>
>> Tab to the OK button and press it.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf 
>> of
>> "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: 28 October 2006 11:07
>> To: "Bcab" <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [bcab] INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7
>>
>> I have just had an e-mail from my sighted volunteer who informs me that 
>> on
>
>> 1
>> November Microsoft will be distributing IE 7.  He is concerned that I
>> might
>> get it automatically, and understands that it is not compatible with 
>> JAWS.
>> I have automatic updates on, but I am wondering whether it will be
>> possible
>> to refuse the IE update.  Please could anyone advise me, and all members
>> who
>> may be affected, what we need to do.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Wendy
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