[bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7

Hi,

I can only go along with what Steve has said - I am really considering
whether to drop Jaws altogether.  I am currently using WE 6.0 beta with
JFW keyboard layout, and I have a lot better Powerpoint support (which I
use quite a bit) now.  The only small fly in the ointment is that I use
a program called Forte Agent for news reading, and this doesn't work at
all well for some reason.

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 29 October 2006 08:45
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7

Hi Dave,

It must be a long time since you have tried WE then.  Not only does it
have
a JAWS layout, so you don't even have to remember new keystrokes, it
works
with MSN, Windows Messenger, and Live Messenger.  Its excel support in
my
view is at least as good as JFW, if not better, its word support in my
view,
is better than JFW, and if you say you are not happy with JFW 7.1, then
maybe it could be worth a look again.  You can get a free demo, so it
may be
worth having a play again.  To get to the JFW layout, just hit the
keyboard
menu, and you'll find it in there.

All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Dave Taylor
Sent: 29 October 2006 00:30
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7

That's all very well, and I agree they should get their finger out, but
I am
still on v7.0 because it's the most recent one I have managed to make
work,
though I think I've now learned how to rewrite the default.jkm file to
make
the keyboard work on later versions. But I have all the clutter that
goes
with Jaws now. There is so much stuff that is completely unnecesary.
Trouble
is, I simply cannot get my head round Window Eyes. I have tried time and
time again, and I just can't get the performance or memorise the
keystrokes
that I can in Jaws.  Neither can I afford to keep updating them both, so
I've been concentrating on Jaws because that's what we all know if our
house. I've found that in v7.1 list boxes don't read anything out a lot
of
the time and things like that, so have had to turn it off and go back to
v7.0.  I'm now really out of date with WE but I do use Excell for
various
things and I never did like WE's performance in that.  I just want a
screen
reader I can actually use that doesn't lave loads of broken features and
does things like read messages automatically in MSN etc, and last I
knew, WE
couldn't even do that!

Cheers
Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 4:29 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7


> Hi Steve,
>
> I think the better method would be to contact Freedom Sci and tell
them to
> get on with supporting it.  Window-Eyes supports it very well already,

> even
> with Version 5.5, but the public beta of Version 6 supports it even 
> better.
>
> IE7 is much slicker, much faster, and tabbed browsing is tremendous.
So
> let's not talk about not getting it, let's talk about better support
for 
> it
> from the screen reader vendors that don't yet support it, and should. 
> Betas
> for it have been out for a while now, so Free Sci should have a handle
on 
> it
> by now.
>
> All the best
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Griffiths, Steve
> Sent: 28 October 2006 12:51
> To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bcab] Re: INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7
>
> Wendy and others,
>
> My understanding is that Internet Explorer 7 is going to come out as a
> Windows update in early November. To prevent it automatically being
> installed, you need to turn off the Auomatic Update feature within 
> Windows.
> Here is how to do that with Windows XP.
>
> Open the Start menu and choose Control Panel. If Control Panel isn't
on 
> the
> Start menu, choose Settings and then Control Panel.
>
> Move down to Automatic Updates and press Enter.
>
> Tab to a series of radio buttons and choose anything except "Automatic
> (recommended)".
>
> Tab to the OK button and press it.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of
> "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 28 October 2006 11:07
> To: "Bcab" <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bcab] INTERNET EXPLORER VERSION 7
>
> I have just had an e-mail from my sighted volunteer who informs me
that on

> 1
> November Microsoft will be distributing IE 7.  He is concerned that I 
> might
> get it automatically, and understands that it is not compatible with
JAWS.
> I have automatic updates on, but I am wondering whether it will be 
> possible
> to refuse the IE update.  Please could anyone advise me, and all
members 
> who
> may be affected, what we need to do.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Wendy
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