[bcab] Re: Debate on the BBC website about unspoken web addresses on TV

Hi all,

could we be forging stronger links twith B C S and other computer organisations 
to get the message across?  To those who assume we need sight to use computers, 
of course, here we are, an oximoron, a computer association of the blind.  That 
"Of" is of course critical here.

Best,
Clive

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dave Taylor 
  To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:13 PM
  Subject: [bcab] Re: Debate on the BBC website about unspoken web addresses on 
TV


  Hi

   

  I think whoever does it is going to have to put out messages that are 
unpopular with sighted people to get noticed. Can any charity that needs to 
raise money actually really do that? I've taken the approach of complaining 
that disability isn't on their list of discriminations etc purely as an 
individual. It'll be interesting to try and get that thread to the top of the 
complaints list, that might raise awareness in the BBC. The problem is that 
people assume and won't find out for themselves. They are the people we need to 
reach, and I fear our usual methods would mainly only reach those who either 
already know, or would find out through curiosity anyway. There's some great 
stuff on the internet we could easily link to and put a section on the website 
about it all, that wouldn't distract from what we already do and would at least 
help the curious.

   

  Cheers

  Dave

   

   

  From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Léonie Watson
  Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:41 AM
  To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bcab] Re: Debate on the BBC website about unspoken web addresses on 
TV

   

      Yes, I came across this myself and think you're absolutely right. It's 
astounding to realise the perception people have. Any ideas what we may be able 
to do to raise our profile?

   

  Cheers,

  Tink.

   


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  From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Clive Lever
  Sent: 27 February 2009 22:18
  To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ncwfsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bcab] Debate on the BBC website about unspoken web addresses on TV

  Hi all,

   

  please see this extract from the RNIB's weekly Audio Description output from 
Jill Whitehead.

   

  I think this also shows there's some public awareness raising to be done  on 
the perceptions of our ability to use computers at all!  Could we be the people 
to do it?

  Jill Whitehead writes:

  Second, have a look at the link below.  It will take you to a section on the 
BBC website where there is a debate going on about blind people watching TV
  and using computers.  Please feel free to contribute if you wish.  The debate 
was sparked by a "leaked" email from the Head of BBC Newsroom, prompted by
  me, asking all news presenters to read out email addresses and phone numbers 
etc. instead of just saying "the number is on your screens now" - enjoy! 
  Warning: if you have high blood pressure, it may go even higher after reading 
some of the contributions you'll find on the site!
  
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2009/02/bbc_news_and_disabled_audience.html

   

   

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  And Charlotte Green poses as the Voicemail messenger from hell at:
  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GR7VIhcdYNI

   

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