[bcab] Re: Blackberry

Hi Adrian

Yes I work in the same way as you at the present time. The issue is that I
have to work across a number of sites so returning to base to get documents
which are on the whole sent out by e-mail to me isn't always possible. I
think for this being able to access the system by my own laptop or by simply
being able to log on to an office PC is probably the answer.

We have a T-mobile corporate contract and they do not support blackberry
connect so can't make any headway there. It's a shame as I thought this was
going to be the solution to keeping a watch on e-mail when out of the
office. I'm sure like me you get a lot of e-mail and I find if I can keep on
top of them between meetings it is helpful.

Anyway I am going to meet with I.T. so that they have a better understanding
of the various solutions we might consider.


On a positive note I don't experience any problems purchasing the equipment
I need so that's a good start.

Regards
Sharon 

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Adrian Higginbotham
Sent: 29 May 2009 14:05
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry

HI Sharon - building on what Graham said in his message...

I'm in a similar situation to yourself although because of the issues you
too experience I tend to largely forfit network connectivity when away from
my desk, taking a laptop to meetings for access to documents, note keeping
etc. not ideal as it does rely on me always having time to prepare and is an
issue if I don't have latest versions of any materials. I've found that
portable access to any PC really is more trouble that it is worth so I just
carry the laptop and sync up any notes or documents when I get back to my
desk.  For meetings I keep a secondary smaller laptop partly because our
system seems to fall over too often if you are docking to and from the
network multiple times per day and having to restart a machine each time you
return to your desk is just too time consuming. Be sure to use a secure usb
stick for any transfer of files between machines.

For a watching eye on emails when away from your desk blackberry connect, or
connection to exchange server on a supporting device should work but no good
for looking at any attachments. Viewing these might be possible in theory
but in reality I rarely find any value in viwing a document if I don't have
the ability to edit it by adding comments etc so it's just more effective to
deal with those that I can and save these for a more convenient time.

If I'm out of the office for a decent length of time or working elsewhere
then I take my laptop with me and connect in via VPN so it's just a matter
of get your internet access working, click a link on the desktop to connect
to the office and you have access to all your usual folders and email system
through outlook and so on - can be a bit detailed for something for example
browser settings you have to modify depending on if you want to access the
intranet, shared drives, or sharepoint.
If you need access from a machine other than a works machine EG your home
computer than our "connect" services work reasonably well with jaws. Until
recently I couldn't access email or calendars in this way but now that we've
upgraded our exchange server from 2003 to exchange 2007 the outlook webmail
and webcalendar interfaces are actually useable.

As graham suggested, it sounds like you need some one who knows all the
options available to come in and talk to you and your IT team to suggest
what might work for you - you could look for funding for this through access
to work but equally your employer could pay for it themselves. I'm sure
others on list could suggest names of one or 2 companies who could provide
this service, who have the relevant experience of corporate systems and the
security etc that sit alongside these.


Adrian Higginbotham,
Manager, Leading edge research
Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994
Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/
BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ

-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Sharon Stockman
Sent: 29 May 2009 06:48
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry

Hi Andrew and all,

Sorry amongst all the different e-mail I have not quite understood if
blackberry connect is or is not available in the UK? I saw earlier in the
mail traffic that it wasn't?

My situation is all my colleagues have blackberries. Now I know I can't use
a blackberry right now but want to simulate this. I'm being offered a laptop
to be able to get e-mail remotely but wanted something more portable as I
move around between offices through the working day?

 I need 2 things, a phone or device which is portable to pick up e-mail and
something which would ideally let me log on to a PC in another office like
portable jaws? A small PC would be useful but I don't really want to carry
that to another office just for a meeting I just want to pick up e-mail
while I am away from my office base? Whats compounded my frustration is my
employer has purchased a remote system which doesn't support sound so I
can't even log on from home and access the system as the minute I do jaws is
lost?

I have a meeting with IT next week to try and resolve this issue as this has
gone on for a very long time so advice on how to resolve this would be
really helpful. IT have insisted that blackberry connect can not be used
over a number of months and the laptop is their only solution. It's worth
noting that our system is a secure one as it holds confidential information
which is why I think my employer has not as yet found an alternative
solution for me.



Sharon




-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Andrew Hodgson
Sent: 28 May 2009 23:03
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry

Hi,



There is a personal account system on the Blackberry which can connect to
any POP3 or IMAP account - it is called BIS, and you can set it up from the
device itself or through the Blackberry Desktop Software (which is like
Nokia PC Suite), or of course through an Internet browser.



There is a good video from O2 on how to do this at:



http://www.o2.co.uk/sme/officeonthemove/mobileemail/setyourselfup/blackberry



Watch out for data charges if your friend has the Blackberry Internet
Service pay as you use tariff, continuous email downloads will end up
costing.



Thanks.

Andrew.



From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of ELEANOR BURKE
Sent: 28 May 2009 22:39
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry



My friend has a blackberry.  she is an individual and not working in a
company.  Prior to that she had the e71 but her husband bought her a
blackberry.  She does not know how to set up the e-mail on it and would like
to do so.  I went in to a shop and they told me that she would have to go to
02 and get them to set it up.  can she not set it up herself and if yes, how
would she do it?



Eleanor

        ----- Original Message -----

        From: Andrew Hodgson <mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

        Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:02 PM

        Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry



        Hi,



        I have spent the last two weeks with the Blackberry phones, and I
would agree with George - there is nothing that I wouldn't give my Nokia
style phones up for.



        We have a lot of users in the office after I did a huge Exchange
migration at work ask about ActiveSync connectivity, we have around 20
IPhones, 10 Windows smartphones and a couple of Nokias (all using
ActiveSync).  However, the directors all prefer Blackberry phones.



        In terms of setting up the external access to the connection, the
ActiveSync is more of an issue for administrators, because you need to set
up certificates, and in some cases the autodiscovery services so that people
can do automatic setup of their devices.  Also, arranging a connection into
the core of the Exchange services where the Activesync resides is tricky if
you have a complex network.  The Blackberry system is a lot easier
connection wise, as it just requires an outgoing connection through the
firewall.



        The downsides to the BB connections, however, is a separate complete
server is required for the Blackberry phones (including an SQL instance, and
this can get complex depending on the high availability requirements), and a
service charge exists in connecting the end user phones to our enterprise
server, as well as client access licenses on the enterprise server itself.
However, the enterprise server gives the administrator a lot of control over
the end phones, I can lock features on the phones very quickly, or find out
about the phones - to the extent of actually finding out what calls/messages
were sent/received on the device.



        The point I am trying to make is that the phones do exactly the same
on the outside, but the connections to the mail systems supporting them is
very different.  It may be that the IT team at the company you work at
enabled one system, but aren't keen on enabling both systems.  This is what
inevitably forces people down a specific device route, and why the
Blackberry Connect software was developed for the Nokia smartphones (and
other devices).



        Hope this helps,

        Andrew.



        From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of George Bell
        Sent: 28 May 2009 21:16
        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry



        I suspect the only real difference would be what's left in your
wallet or purse after purchase.  There's a lorra hype in them thar phone
shops.



        George.



        From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of ELEANOR BURKE
        Sent: 28 May 2009 20:39
        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [bcab] Blackberry



         What is the difference between a blackberry and say e71?  I can
access the Internet and e-mail on my mobile phones so what will a blackberry
give me in addition, sayhing if the screen reader was there.



        Eleanor

                ----- Original Message -----

                From: jeremy <mailto:icu8it2@xxxxxxxxx>

                To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

                Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:29 PM

                Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone



                Wow, if they actually had software that would make a
blackberry accessible that would be wonderful. I am not into the touch
screen phones all that much but last blackberry I looked had the keyboard
and was a nice looking phone. What, if any info is  out there on work for
accessibility of these phones? Just curious. Last time I had a phone sort of
like what I want was a sampsung blackjack but I had serious issues with
windows mobile freezing up all the time. Just something that is reliable and
sterdy would be great. So far it's my nokia 6682 but it's starting to get
out of date and time for something better.

                        ----- Original Message -----

                        From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

                        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

                        Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:34 AM

                        Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone



                        Hi Graham,



                        Yes, all of them.



                        All the best



                        Steve




________________________________


                        From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page
                        Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2009 10:36
                        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone



                        steve, do any of these new phones work with
wayfinder and if not are we ;promised an update soon?



                        cheers



                        Graham

                        Graham Page
                        Home Phone: 0207 265 9493
                        Mobile: 07753 607980
                        Fax:  0870 706 2773
                        Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx
                        Skype: gabriel_mcbird

                        ----- Original Message -----

                        From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

                        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

                        Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:04 AM

                        Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone



                        Hi Sharon,



                        Some good ones to look at now, are the N79 and the
N85. You may also like the N96, though personally, I find it a bit chunky.
It works fine with Talks though.  Also, if you like QWERTY keyboards, then
the E71 may be one to look at.



                        All the best



                        Steve




________________________________


                        From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sharon Stockman
                        Sent: Sunday 24 May 2009 23:35
                        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [bcab] buying a new mobile phone



                        Hi all,

                        Sorry this is slightly off topic.



                        I want to buy a new mobile handset. I use talks. Can
anyone recommend a newer model as I'm finding it difficult to work out which
is the newest phone as the lists I see have lots of phones which are now
discontinued and numbers are not any indication of their date of production.



                        Regards

                        Sharon





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