[bcab] Re: Blackberry

Hi,

I gather that Blackberry is no longer being supported on Nokia phones.  Or is 
it just that new models of phone will not be supported?

Secondly, for those who use MS Outlook, there is free software from Nokia 
called Nokia For Exchange (MFE) which, as far as I can gather, gives the 
functionality of Blackberry, at least as far as the user is concerned.  I think 
the phone itself has to "pull" the data, rather than it being "pushed", and 
synchronisation can be either manual or scheduled.  Of course, whether MFE 
remains free is in the hands of Nokia.

Cheers,

Norman O.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andrew Hodgson 
  To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:02 PM
  Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry


  Hi,

   

  I have spent the last two weeks with the Blackberry phones, and I would agree 
with George - there is nothing that I wouldn't give my Nokia style phones up 
for.

   

  We have a lot of users in the office after I did a huge Exchange migration at 
work ask about ActiveSync connectivity, we have around 20 IPhones, 10 Windows 
smartphones and a couple of Nokias (all using ActiveSync).  However, the 
directors all prefer Blackberry phones.

   

  In terms of setting up the external access to the connection, the ActiveSync 
is more of an issue for administrators, because you need to set up 
certificates, and in some cases the autodiscovery services so that people can 
do automatic setup of their devices.  Also, arranging a connection into the 
core of the Exchange services where the Activesync resides is tricky if you 
have a complex network.  The Blackberry system is a lot easier connection wise, 
as it just requires an outgoing connection through the firewall.

   

  The downsides to the BB connections, however, is a separate complete server 
is required for the Blackberry phones (including an SQL instance, and this can 
get complex depending on the high availability requirements), and a service 
charge exists in connecting the end user phones to our enterprise server, as 
well as client access licenses on the enterprise server itself.  However, the 
enterprise server gives the administrator a lot of control over the end phones, 
I can lock features on the phones very quickly, or find out about the phones - 
to the extent of actually finding out what calls/messages were sent/received on 
the device.

   

  The point I am trying to make is that the phones do exactly the same on the 
outside, but the connections to the mail systems supporting them is very 
different.  It may be that the IT team at the company you work at enabled one 
system, but aren't keen on enabling both systems.  This is what inevitably 
forces people down a specific device route, and why the Blackberry Connect 
software was developed for the Nokia smartphones (and other devices).

   

  Hope this helps,

  Andrew.

   

  From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of George Bell
  Sent: 28 May 2009 21:16
  To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry

   

  I suspect the only real difference would be what's left in your wallet or 
purse after purchase.  There's a lorra hype in them thar phone shops.

   

  George.

   

  From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of ELEANOR BURKE
  Sent: 28 May 2009 20:39
  To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bcab] Blackberry

   

   What is the difference between a blackberry and say e71?  I can access the 
Internet and e-mail on my mobile phones so what will a blackberry give me in 
addition, sayhing if the screen reader was there.

   

  Eleanor

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: jeremy 

    To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:29 PM

    Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone

     

    Wow, if they actually had software that would make a blackberry accessible 
that would be wonderful. I am not into the touch screen phones all that much 
but last blackberry I looked had the keyboard and was a nice looking phone. 
What, if any info is  out there on work for accessibility of these phones? Just 
curious. Last time I had a phone sort of like what I want was a sampsung 
blackjack but I had serious issues with windows mobile freezing up all the 
time. Just something that is reliable and sterdy would be great. So far it's my 
nokia 6682 but it's starting to get out of date and time for something better.

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Steve Nutt 

      To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:34 AM

      Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone

       

      Hi Graham,

       

      Yes, all of them.

       

      All the best

       

      Steve

       


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      From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Graham Page
      Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2009 10:36
      To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone

       

      steve, do any of these new phones work with wayfinder and if not are we 
;promised an update soon?

       

      cheers

       

      Graham

      Graham Page
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      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Steve Nutt 

      To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:04 AM

      Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone

       

      Hi Sharon,

       

      Some good ones to look at now, are the N79 and the N85. You may also like 
the N96, though personally, I find it a bit chunky. It works fine with Talks 
though.  Also, if you like QWERTY keyboards, then the E71 may be one to look at.

       

      All the best

       

      Steve

       


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      From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Sharon Stockman
      Sent: Sunday 24 May 2009 23:35
      To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [bcab] buying a new mobile phone

       

      Hi all,

      Sorry this is slightly off topic.

       

      I want to buy a new mobile handset. I use talks. Can anyone recommend a 
newer model as I'm finding it difficult to work out which is the newest phone 
as the lists I see have lots of phones which are now discontinued and numbers 
are not any indication of their date of production.

       

      Regards

      Sharon

       



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