[bcab] Re: Blackberry

Thanks for that.  Very helpful.  What is the advantage of the blackberry though 
over say the e71?

Eleanor
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Andrew Hodgson
  To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:03 PM
  Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry


  Hi,



  There is a personal account system on the Blackberry which can connect to any 
POP3 or IMAP account - it is called BIS, and you can set it up from the device 
itself or through the Blackberry Desktop Software (which is like Nokia PC 
Suite), or of course through an Internet browser.



  There is a good video from O2 on how to do this at:



  http://www.o2.co.uk/sme/officeonthemove/mobileemail/setyourselfup/blackberry



  Watch out for data charges if your friend has the Blackberry Internet Service 
pay as you use tariff, continuous email downloads will end up costing.



  Thanks.

  Andrew.



  From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of ELEANOR BURKE
  Sent: 28 May 2009 22:39
  To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry



  My friend has a blackberry.  she is an individual and not working in a 
company.  Prior to that she had the e71 but her husband bought her a 
blackberry.  She does not know how to set up the e-mail on it and would like to 
do so.  I went in to a shop and they told me that she would have to go to 02 
and get them to set it up.  can she not set it up herself and if yes, how would 
she do it?



  Eleanor

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Andrew Hodgson

    To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:02 PM

    Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry



    Hi,



    I have spent the last two weeks with the Blackberry phones, and I would 
agree with George - there is nothing that I wouldn't give my Nokia style phones 
up for.



    We have a lot of users in the office after I did a huge Exchange migration 
at work ask about ActiveSync connectivity, we have around 20 IPhones, 10 
Windows smartphones and a couple of Nokias (all using ActiveSync).  However, 
the directors all prefer Blackberry phones.



    In terms of setting up the external access to the connection, the 
ActiveSync is more of an issue for administrators, because you need to set up 
certificates, and in some cases the autodiscovery services so that people can 
do automatic setup of their devices.  Also, arranging a connection into the 
core of the Exchange services where the Activesync resides is tricky if you 
have a complex network.  The Blackberry system is a lot easier connection wise, 
as it just requires an outgoing connection through the firewall.



    The downsides to the BB connections, however, is a separate complete server 
is required for the Blackberry phones (including an SQL instance, and this can 
get complex depending on the high availability requirements), and a service 
charge exists in connecting the end user phones to our enterprise server, as 
well as client access licenses on the enterprise server itself.  However, the 
enterprise server gives the administrator a lot of control over the end phones, 
I can lock features on the phones very quickly, or find out about the phones - 
to the extent of actually finding out what calls/messages were sent/received on 
the device.



    The point I am trying to make is that the phones do exactly the same on the 
outside, but the connections to the mail systems supporting them is very 
different.  It may be that the IT team at the company you work at enabled one 
system, but aren't keen on enabling both systems.  This is what inevitably 
forces people down a specific device route, and why the Blackberry Connect 
software was developed for the Nokia smartphones (and other devices).



    Hope this helps,

    Andrew.



    From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of George Bell
    Sent: 28 May 2009 21:16
    To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry



    I suspect the only real difference would be what's left in your wallet or 
purse after purchase.  There's a lorra hype in them thar phone shops.



    George.



    From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of ELEANOR BURKE
    Sent: 28 May 2009 20:39
    To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [bcab] Blackberry



     What is the difference between a blackberry and say e71?  I can access the 
Internet and e-mail on my mobile phones so what will a blackberry give me in 
addition, sayhing if the screen reader was there.



    Eleanor

      ----- Original Message -----

      From: jeremy

      To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

      Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:29 PM

      Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone



      Wow, if they actually had software that would make a blackberry 
accessible that would be wonderful. I am not into the touch screen phones all 
that much but last blackberry I looked had the keyboard and was a nice looking 
phone. What, if any info is  out there on work for accessibility of these 
phones? Just curious. Last time I had a phone sort of like what I want was a 
sampsung blackjack but I had serious issues with windows mobile freezing up all 
the time. Just something that is reliable and sterdy would be great. So far 
it's my nokia 6682 but it's starting to get out of date and time for something 
better.

        ----- Original Message -----

        From: Steve Nutt

        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

        Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:34 AM

        Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone



        Hi Graham,



        Yes, all of them.



        All the best



        Steve




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        From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Graham Page
        Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2009 10:36
        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone



        steve, do any of these new phones work with wayfinder and if not are we 
;promised an update soon?



        cheers



        Graham

        Graham Page
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        Mobile: 07753 607980
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        ----- Original Message -----

        From: Steve Nutt

        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

        Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:04 AM

        Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone



        Hi Sharon,



        Some good ones to look at now, are the N79 and the N85. You may also 
like the N96, though personally, I find it a bit chunky. It works fine with 
Talks though.  Also, if you like QWERTY keyboards, then the E71 may be one to 
look at.



        All the best



        Steve




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        From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Sharon Stockman
        Sent: Sunday 24 May 2009 23:35
        To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [bcab] buying a new mobile phone



        Hi all,

        Sorry this is slightly off topic.



        I want to buy a new mobile handset. I use talks. Can anyone recommend a 
newer model as I'm finding it difficult to work out which is the newest phone 
as the lists I see have lots of phones which are now discontinued and numbers 
are not any indication of their date of production.



        Regards

        Sharon





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