[bcab] Re: Blackberry

Hi,

I have spent the last two weeks with the Blackberry phones, and I would agree 
with George - there is nothing that I wouldn't give my Nokia style phones up 
for.

We have a lot of users in the office after I did a huge Exchange migration at 
work ask about ActiveSync connectivity, we have around 20 IPhones, 10 Windows 
smartphones and a couple of Nokias (all using ActiveSync).  However, the 
directors all prefer Blackberry phones.

In terms of setting up the external access to the connection, the ActiveSync is 
more of an issue for administrators, because you need to set up certificates, 
and in some cases the autodiscovery services so that people can do automatic 
setup of their devices.  Also, arranging a connection into the core of the 
Exchange services where the Activesync resides is tricky if you have a complex 
network.  The Blackberry system is a lot easier connection wise, as it just 
requires an outgoing connection through the firewall.

The downsides to the BB connections, however, is a separate complete server is 
required for the Blackberry phones (including an SQL instance, and this can get 
complex depending on the high availability requirements), and a service charge 
exists in connecting the end user phones to our enterprise server, as well as 
client access licenses on the enterprise server itself.  However, the 
enterprise server gives the administrator a lot of control over the end phones, 
I can lock features on the phones very quickly, or find out about the phones - 
to the extent of actually finding out what calls/messages were sent/received on 
the device.

The point I am trying to make is that the phones do exactly the same on the 
outside, but the connections to the mail systems supporting them is very 
different.  It may be that the IT team at the company you work at enabled one 
system, but aren't keen on enabling both systems.  This is what inevitably 
forces people down a specific device route, and why the Blackberry Connect 
software was developed for the Nokia smartphones (and other devices).

Hope this helps,
Andrew.

From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
George Bell
Sent: 28 May 2009 21:16
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Blackberry

I suspect the only real difference would be what's left in your wallet or purse 
after purchase.  There's a lorra hype in them thar phone shops.

George.

From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
ELEANOR BURKE
Sent: 28 May 2009 20:39
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Blackberry

 What is the difference between a blackberry and say e71?  I can access the 
Internet and e-mail on my mobile phones so what will a blackberry give me in 
addition, sayhing if the screen reader was there.

Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: jeremy<mailto:icu8it2@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone

Wow, if they actually had software that would make a blackberry accessible that 
would be wonderful. I am not into the touch screen phones all that much but 
last blackberry I looked had the keyboard and was a nice looking phone. What, 
if any info is  out there on work for accessibility of these phones? Just 
curious. Last time I had a phone sort of like what I want was a sampsung 
blackjack but I had serious issues with windows mobile freezing up all the 
time. Just something that is reliable and sterdy would be great. So far it's my 
nokia 6682 but it's starting to get out of date and time for something better.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt<mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:34 AM
Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone

Hi Graham,

Yes, all of them.

All the best

Steve

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From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page
Sent: Tuesday 26 May 2009 10:36
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone

steve, do any of these new phones work with wayfinder and if not are we 
;promised an update soon?

cheers

Graham
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----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt<mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:04 AM
Subject: [bcab] Re: buying a new mobile phone

Hi Sharon,

Some good ones to look at now, are the N79 and the N85. You may also like the 
N96, though personally, I find it a bit chunky. It works fine with Talks 
though.  Also, if you like QWERTY keyboards, then the E71 may be one to look at.

All the best

Steve

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From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sharon Stockman
Sent: Sunday 24 May 2009 23:35
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] buying a new mobile phone

Hi all,
Sorry this is slightly off topic.

I want to buy a new mobile handset. I use talks. Can anyone recommend a newer 
model as I'm finding it difficult to work out which is the newest phone as the 
lists I see have lots of phones which are now discontinued and numbers are not 
any indication of their date of production.

Regards
Sharon



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