[bcab] Re: Available memory.
- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:32:14 -0000
I am most grateful to you. George scared me a bit. I did have 512 on
desktop and 256 on Toshiba laptop I increased to 1 mb on both the laptop I
think only Tony said had 2 slots in it. Now my desktop is different because
I bought an Independent Graphics/Video card with it's own memory. I did
this to help give jaws stability. I thought it would help solve a problem
with Jaws. I don't think it did only Lunar did that. However I bought the
best Video card I could totally independent of the Motherboard.. I know
nothing of technical things at all but some things since I couldn't begin
to learn even the basics I was too plagued with the problems. do forgive
bad layout. doing my best. You see the computer kept saying "the memory
cannot read" I have no idea why but odd things happen with computers.to had
have had to try and grasp certain things.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Azabat (Steve Crawford)" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:51 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Available memory.
Hi Dorothy,
The simple answer to your last question is that everything takes storage
space. It's only when you open a file that the information gets loaded
into
memory and when you close the file it gets erased from memory. That's a
simplistic view because the operating system gets loaded into memory along
with whatever drivers it needs and, of course, you can run lots of
programmes at the same time so each of those gets loaded into memory.
To check your available memory you can go into your Task Manager (usually
ctrl-alt-del then T) and it should tell you about "Mem Usage". Mine
currently says 209508K / 551688K. This means that in theory I'm using less
than 40% of the memory but it's only half the story. If I choose
properties
on My Computer it tells me that I have 228,896 Kb RAM. So why does it say
551688K in task manager? Because Windows has allocated over 300 Mb as a
swap
file. It isn't really memory but it uses the hard drive to swap values
back
and forth. It works just like memory but it is much slower. If I start
more
programmes without closing anything then my memory usage will go over the
228 Mb I have and I may start to see a deterioration in speed.
One final point here, my computer is supposed to have 256 Mb RAM so why
does
it say there is only 228 Mb? Well, the screen card is built into the
motherboard and uses some of the memory of the system. If I had a separate
screen card it would come with its own memory.
I manage fine on 256 Mb RAM with Windows 2000 and I would think that XP
would work fine with 512 Mb. I bought a voice from Cepstral a little while
ago (David) and it wouldn't run on an old laptop that had 128 Mb RAM but
works fine with 256 Mb. I don't think you'll have a problem running the
newer voices on your system.
Cheers,
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: 22 February 2007 16:17
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Re: Available memory.
Thank you Gulp! trying to understand. I asked as when I had Lunar put on
my computer to enable JFW to work in Monochrome because Lunar will invert
the screen. Tony a Rnib Volunteer, now recently gone to live in France
said Lunar seems to use a lot of Ram, so I increased from 512 to 1 MBor
Meg.
Tony also said Messenger gobbles memory and Windows Messenger don't
bother
with them. Recently when I upgrade to the latest Version of Kurzweil. I
listened to the tape instructions and realised these voices will need a
good bit of memory. They are Powerful. Jaws also has some powerful voices
now. I think Tony said Kurzweil your OCr will not use available Ram, I
don't understand as I am moving in and out of both Jaws and Kurzweil
frequently but are both using Available Ram or not? Sorry to be so dense.
However how can I tell by looking at my computer the amount of Available
Ram
I am using and the memory I have left. I do not store music files and am
using my computer simply have a good few Photos people have sent me not
that I can see them well but I like to have them Do they take up memory
or
just Hardrive space. Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Azabat (Steve Crawford)" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:05 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Available memory.
I'll have a go. The processor works with memory, also known as RAM or
random-access memory. Memory comes on chips and is installed in the
computer. It is mesaured in bytes, kilobytes, megabytes and even
gigabytes.
When you switch off the computer the memory looses its information.
Hard drives are storage devices. The processor cannot work directly with
the
hard drive, it can only execute instructions in memory, so programmes and
data get loaded from the hard drive in order to be processed. Besides,
RAM
is much quicker than drives. Thus, you need an amount of physical memory
in
your computer for it to function. If you don't have enough RAM you will
either find that some aspects of programmes won't work at all or that the
computer slows down significantly because it is using space on the hard
drive to swap memory back and forward.
The main confusion comes about because hard drives are also measured in
megabytes, gigabytes and even terabytes.
Cheers,
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: 22 February 2007 14:37
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bcab] Available memory.
Can anyone explain about Available memory for example some of the new
voices are quite powerful and I imagine in both JFW and Kurzweil would
need
plenty of what you call Ram, I have never really understood how to find
out
the difference between available and other. does available mean left
over?
If so how do do I find out what is left.
I seem to recall something about Available being different however, would
Jaws 8 and K11 be using 'available Ram' and if one is and other
not
can you explain just what is using what.sorry the question is not set
out
well, it was just that these new powerful voices must use more of
something? Dorothy
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Hi Dorothy, The simple answer to your last question is that everything takes storagespace. It's only when you open a file that the information gets loaded into
memory and when you close the file it gets erased from memory. That's a simplistic view because the operating system gets loaded into memory along with whatever drivers it needs and, of course, you can run lots of programmes at the same time so each of those gets loaded into memory. To check your available memory you can go into your Task Manager (usually ctrl-alt-del then T) and it should tell you about "Mem Usage". Mine currently says 209508K / 551688K. This means that in theory I'm using lessthan 40% of the memory but it's only half the story. If I choose properties
on My Computer it tells me that I have 228,896 Kb RAM. So why does it say551688K in task manager? Because Windows has allocated over 300 Mb as a swap file. It isn't really memory but it uses the hard drive to swap values back and forth. It works just like memory but it is much slower. If I start more
programmes without closing anything then my memory usage will go over the 228 Mb I have and I may start to see a deterioration in speed.One final point here, my computer is supposed to have 256 Mb RAM so why does
it say there is only 228 Mb? Well, the screen card is built into the motherboard and uses some of the memory of the system. If I had a separate screen card it would come with its own memory. I manage fine on 256 Mb RAM with Windows 2000 and I would think that XP would work fine with 512 Mb. I bought a voice from Cepstral a little while ago (David) and it wouldn't run on an old laptop that had 128 Mb RAM but works fine with 256 Mb. I don't think you'll have a problem running the newer voices on your system. Cheers, Steve -----Original Message----- From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban Sent: 22 February 2007 16:17 To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bcab] Re: Available memory. Thank you Gulp! trying to understand. I asked as when I had Lunar put on my computer to enable JFW to work in Monochrome because Lunar will invert the screen. Tony a Rnib Volunteer, now recently gone to live in Francesaid Lunar seems to use a lot of Ram, so I increased from 512 to 1 MBor Meg. Tony also said Messenger gobbles memory and Windows Messenger don't bother
with them. Recently when I upgrade to the latest Version of Kurzweil. I listened to the tape instructions and realised these voices will need a good bit of memory. They are Powerful. Jaws also has some powerful voices now. I think Tony said Kurzweil your OCr will not use available Ram, I don't understand as I am moving in and out of both Jaws and Kurzweil frequently but are both using Available Ram or not? Sorry to be so dense.However how can I tell by looking at my computer the amount of Available Ram
I am using and the memory I have left. I do not store music files and am using my computer simply have a good few Photos people have sent me notthat I can see them well but I like to have them Do they take up memory or
just Hardrive space. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Azabat (Steve Crawford)" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: [bcab] Re: Available memory.
I'll have a go. The processor works with memory, also known as RAM or random-access memory. Memory comes on chips and is installed in the computer. It is mesaured in bytes, kilobytes, megabytes and even gigabytes. When you switch off the computer the memory looses its information. Hard drives are storage devices. The processor cannot work directly with the hard drive, it can only execute instructions in memory, so programmes anddata get loaded from the hard drive in order to be processed. Besides, RAMis much quicker than drives. Thus, you need an amount of physical memory in your computer for it to function. If you don't have enough RAM you will either find that some aspects of programmes won't work at all or that the computer slows down significantly because it is using space on the hard drive to swap memory back and forward. The main confusion comes about because hard drives are also measured in megabytes, gigabytes and even terabytes. Cheers, Steve -----Original Message----- From: bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban Sent: 22 February 2007 14:37 To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bcab] Available memory. Can anyone explain about Available memory for example some of the new voices are quite powerful and I imagine in both JFW and Kurzweil would need plenty of what you call Ram, I have never really understood how to find outthe difference between available and other. does available mean left over?If so how do do I find out what is left. I seem to recall something about Available being different however, would Jaws 8 and K11 be using 'available Ram' and if one is and other not can you explain just what is using what.sorry the question is not set out well, it was just that these new powerful voices must use more of something? Dorothy *** BCAB List administration *** If you wish to unsubscribe, set vacation,, request a digest or carry out routine maintenance on your subscription to the list then go to: http://www.bcab.org.uk/mailing-list.html Alternatively, send an email to bcab-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word faqin the subject line. You'll receive an email with advice on managing your subscription to the list. If you wish to discuss the administration of the list then contact: bcab-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx __________ NOD32 2075 (20070222) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com *** BCAB List administration *** If you wish to unsubscribe, set vacation,, request a digest or carry out routine maintenance on your subscription to the list then go to: http://www.bcab.org.uk/mailing-list.html Alternatively, send an email to bcab-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word faqin the subject line. You'll receive an email with advice on managing your subscription to the list. If you wish to discuss the administration of the list then contact: bcab-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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