[bcab] Re: Accessibility considerations
- From: "Karina Gregory" <karina.gregory@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:57:07 -0000
Hi Dorothy,
I've sorted it now and am waiting for a response from the company. Thanks for
your suggestions though.
Karina
----- Original Message -----
From: Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 8:09 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Accessibility considerations
Hallo Vince I wonder what the Australian tool is you mean. I know that at
Abilitynet Robin Christopherson specialises in this field. He will talk in
terms of Hexadecimals for colours and in the beginning I had not a clue what
he meant being alone and trying to learn on my own there being no tuition
available from my Association for the Blind. I have to have black screen and
white Font and low light or no light on to cope. I use Lunar in Inverse Mode
to do this. There were some incompatibilities to be sorted out and it was
another lump of software on my computer on top of Jaws and Kurzweil, however
it is bearable and before it was not. People just couldn't understand unless
they actually were sitting beside me. I was told 'turn the screen off for
get it and so on. I refused to do this.Andrew Hodgson found a way. I had
been prepared to pay a man in Sussex who told me he had worked for a firm of
Electronics. He ran a Computer repair business. He was he said designing a box
to invert the screen. a sort of switching box. the switch in the middle if
turned up would give colour and view. Thing is after waiting 8 months, it came
about we Andrew and I realised he was not able to do it, or admit it. I
truly would not have minded but he seemed not able to admit it Then when I had
the Hardrive failure it all fell apart leavingme with No Jaws No lunar No
no anything no windows. He brought the equipment back and tore off saying "I
never want to hear Jaws again" Anyway if Robin's Position with Abilitynet is
to Survey and draw up reports for the BBC I should ask him about it. dorothy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Vince Thacker
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:49 PM
Subject: [bcab] Re: Accessibility considerations
Karina, couldn't agree more. The colour combination you mention sounds
ridiculous.
Contrast is indeed an issue, mentioned in many accessibility contexts.
For example, this is from w3.org's section, "Techniques For Accessibility:
Evaluation And Repair Tools"
"Checkpoint 2.2 - Ensure that foreground and background color combinations
provide sufficient contrast when viewed by someone having color deficits or
when viewed on a black and white screen "
The contrast values can indeed be tested by looking at the numbers or
numeric equivalents of names used for colors. So it's pretty easy to
auto-detect this problem.
I've used the Vision Australia Web Accessibility Toolbar for a long time.
One of the tests included there is a colour contrast test. It's not difficult
to carry this out, so really there's no excuse for getting it wrong. It helps
if you know that the red, green and blue can each range from 0 to 255, and that
the hex digits for those are 00 and FF. That's about all there is to it.
Sadly, I've come across sites put together by blind people who haven't got
it anywhere near right. One had a green background (00FF00), red text (FF0000)
and blue links (0000ff). Well, the FF digits give it away straight away. The
text would be invisible in black and white, and in colour it would at the very
least look yucky.
I don't know for sure, but I'd have thought even automated tests like
WebXact would fail pages with poor colour contrasts.
Of course, it's not as simple as that if you are designing a site for
dyslexics or people who have eye conditions like M D where they get a lot of
glare. the contrast values could be fine, but the site could be a pain to read.
I know of what I speak, believe me.
Vince.
----- Original Message -----
From: Karina Gregory
To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:50 PM
Subject: [bcab] Accessibility considerations
Hi all,
I've just come across a website that claims to have WAI - AA and WCAG 1.0
having a symbol in the corner of ths creen. The thing that I don't agree with
is the colour contrast - white text on a light blue background. My question is
that when websites are tested by an accessibility website/program for
accessibility, is colour contrast taken into consideration? Surely the colour
schemes to be used can be picked up from the code. If it isn't already taken
into consideration, maybe it could be i nthe future by specifying to the
accessibility tool what is good contrast and what is bad contrast. Do you
follow what I'm saying? For example, if the tool was told that white text on a
light blue background was not good contrast then it woud be able to reject
websites that were accessed using this method.
I'm interested in hearing the views of others on this topic.
Thanks.
Karina
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