Wade, well said!
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Wade Price <wade.price@xxxxxxx> wrote:
As Jack says it’s best to be both fast and accurate. However, we usually
have to trade off one for the other. In real life, it’s important to
determine which is more important under the circumstances at hand.
IDPA tries to be as realistic as feasible. However, IDPA is not real life.
No scoring system is perfect. With time plus scoring, IDPA adopted a
scoring system that is simple, but is not always realistic. This is most
noticeable on very short strings of fire, e.g. the "Yo Homie” stage, which
was: draw and engage with two rounds, strong hand only, a threat three feet
away and then and engage with two rounds to the body, one to the head,
freestyle, a threat five feet away.
On “Yo Homie," I averaged five shots in 2.65 seconds per string. Under the
new rules, a single point down would add a full second to my time which is
a 38% penalty! 2 points down would be a 75% penalty! Because of the
penalty, I might be inclined slow down by a second to insure I go down
zero. However, in real life, slowing down by a second could be the
difference between life and death. In real life, I would happily go "down
two" in order to neutralize two deadly threats one second faster. One
second is an eternity.
That said, for typical IDPA stages, I don’t think doubling the points down
penalty really matters. I also don’t think it will change the match results
very much. My biggest concern is that it will encourage people to simply
slow down rather than practice to shoot more accurately at the same speed,
which could be the difference between life and death in a real life deadly
force encounter.
Wade
On Dec 8, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Bill Stewart <stewartbill06@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm not a fast shooter. In fact, my scores tend towards bottom of pack.
But I tend to be one of the more accurate. And that's fine with me because
my philosophy is basically survival: I'm more interested in ensuring the
guy is down rather than dazzle him with the footwork >;-) So I'm ok with
the new scoring. I was just curious from math perspective cause I'm an
engineer
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Jack Folloni <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Thanks Bill. It's the story of life....You gotta be accurate and you
gotta be fast! ;)
In USPSA with hit factor scoring you can often times favor speed over
accuracy. Because "time" is the divisor. In IDPA's "time plus" scoring I
can almost never shoot faster than the 'add on time' of a shot out of the
'O' zone. That will be even more true in 2017.
So it's call (just about) every shot in IDPA. Rare are the occasions for
hosing!
Best -
Jack
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*From:* Bill Stewart <stewartbill06@xxxxxxxxx>
*To:* bas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Sent:* Thursday, December 8, 2016 10:53 AM
*Subject:* [bas] IDPA 1 sec PD - what if
--Hi
I'm new to the list. I shoot IDPA at Bradford as well as other clubs
Looking at the new 1 sec down rule, I decided to see how it would affect
our last match (Dec 6). I simply added another 1/2 second to final scores
for everyone (see final two columns). Overall, it didn't make a big deal.
But (not surprisingly), anyone with high amount of downs did move down.
I sent this to Wade, and he suggested I post it.
Bill Stewart
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