Just getting back from a hike to the usual spot on the butte overlooking Tempe. We spotted it at 7:20, and were able to follow it until just past 7:35, when it was less than a half degree above the White Tanks. We never saw it naked-eye, but it was easy enough to hold in 10x30mm IS binoculars. Jenn estimated 140 degrees, and I saw 120 degrees for the length of the arc. It was interesting to see the arc flatten out due to refraction when it was low. Tom -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.