AJ wrote: Wil, here are my notes for the site: General Crook Trail & Interstate 17, drive 25 mi. east, through Camp Verde, just after mile marker 242 where power lines cross highway, turn left (only way to turn) go past fence [close gate] and take right fork in road to the large meadow; estimated elevation 5000ft. Beware of the many flying insects during the day. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "Zane Grey Highway" is Chris Schur's name for the old name of the General Crook Trail, apparently from the 1980's, before= it was renamed. The site is a meadow at about 6000', just at enough elevation to be among some ponderosa pine trees. I= t is a 'true dark' site in all directions but low south, of course. During the day, there are many "no-see-um" bugs, which you can't see, but you know they're there the next day. Another f= eature from one experience was chiggers, which are the worst bug in Arizona, to my knowledge. Ask Chris. Tom -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.