Observing from Anderson Mesa and from Chile, always using the TelRad at the 'barely visible' setting, I often used mag 6 stars from the 'Bright Star Atlas' to minimize star-hops. To some extent this was one eye on the star directly and the other through the finder, so perhaps is not a fair limit through the device itself. \Brian -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.