[AZ-Observing] Re: Sentinel Report

Tom;

As long as we stay to the north of the fence line that is about 2.5 =
miles
from the pavement, we are on BLM land and it is free access.  The air =
police
told us that the first time we held a big star party there, 20 years =
ago.

So far, so good;
Steve Coe

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[mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stars
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:29 PM
To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Sentinel Report

If you check the sign when entering Sentinel, it says "US Air Force
Property, Unlawful to enter without the express permission of the
Installation Commander.  All personal are subject to search."  (not the
exact works) but I hope you get the meaning.  This is posted in English =
and
Spanish. This is Air Force property, and being so I would think that the
access to it from the south would mean that the illegal's would have to =
be
crossing the gunnery range.  My understanding is that the Air Force is =
aware
that we use it for observing, and have never told anyone to leave, which =
in
all rights they could do.  Maybe that is the reason no-one has had a =
problem
at Sentinel Observing site as stated by Joe Goss this weekend at =
Sentinel.
Problems on the highway 2 miles north normally does not affect us does =
it?
Just my 1-cent worth.

Thomas Hilton


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[mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn blackburn
Sent: 12/05/2005 9:31 PM
To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Sentinel Report

I  am all for finding additional sites, but new sites do not guarantee a =

better site than Sentinel. Sentinel has a long trouble free history. No=20
trouble with the 4x4 desert destroyers, people firing guns at night or=20
helicopters with spotlights. We have had these problem at some of our =
other=20
sites.
The gunnery range south of Sentinel is closed to all use except the Air=20
Force so this limit the traffic near our site. I feel we are more likely =
to=20
be confronted by "legals" (the type mentioned above) than an one else.
I'd like to keep Sentinel as a active site especially for the annual =
SSSG.=20
Lynn
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From: "gene lucas" <geneluca@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:33 PM
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Sentinel Report


> In years to come, we >may< see the lights from an oil refinery planned
> to be built a little farther towards Yuma out there....
> I agree with Steve and Rosie Dodder, no need to be alarmist, BUT =
rather,
> we need to stay alert to the vicinity and the changing environment.  I
> believe any statements from the AZ Highway Patrol or the Sheriff Dept.
> will likely err on the side of safety, meaning they may urge extra
> caution.  Unfortunately, we only see these sites at sporadic =
intervals.
>
> There was the unfortunate incident last year involving an off-duty
> service person who evidently held some illegals at gun point at the =
I-8
> rest area just a few miles west of Sentinel.... A case of a =
well-meaning
> but apparently mis-guided "vigilante" type causing more trouble than =
was
> justified.
>
> Gene Lucas
> (17250)
>
> beevo1@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
>>>We have neverseen anything dangerous
>>>or even moderately alarming.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>All it takes is once
>>
>>Better safe than sorry.
>>
>>Times are changing and not all of the places are safe anymore, =
especially=20
>>if you are un-armed and/or alone
>>
>>Beevo (aka Bill VanOrden)
>>Tempe
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