Thad I had a great time untill I was looking at the hrecules almost straight up. when I took the eye piece out to put in the barlow, The diagonal fell out and hit the ground. didn't break the glass inside but it sure got my attention. That was the 1'st time I had been to Cherry Road site, too many big ants but they seemed to keep to themselves lol Chuck -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.