atw: documenting wat we do

Or more likely, give a starting point for discussion.
 
Clear thinking again - let's not try to solve the problem now, just get a
meeting scheduled at which everyone gets to present all their clever ideas
and the group hashes them out until they produce something better than any
individual could have produced alone.  That's what brainstorming is about.
 
Christine


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[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luke Hoban
Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2007 3:13 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: Agencies, contractors and other gripes (another longish
contribution)


Hi Michelle,
 
Off list someone suggested:
"Intecom produced a very clear specification of what should be expected of
Technical Communicators based on their title (i.e. Junior to Senior with
four or five levels I think)."
  
I don't know the rating system suggested ~ but it might give a framwork for
agencies to assess the differet roles and capabilities.
The "how much our skills are worth" question is a little trickier as TWs in
the fields of IT and Finance would seem to be paid a bit better.
 
</2cents>
 
Luke

 
On 1/17/07, Hallett, Michelle <HYPERLINK
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wrote: 

I just want to create a document we can put in front of agencies and
employers which:

1. tells them what we do 
2. explains how to assess our capabilities and our competence
3. explain how much we think our skills are worth and why

For the rest of it, you can argue about accreditation and grades and
guilds till the cows come home (or the sheep are kidnapped by aliens). 

Michelle Hallett
IT Trainer/Support Analyst
Leighton Contractors P/L
Tel: 02 8668 6047
Fax: 02 8668 6666
Mob: 0434 183 541
Email: HYPERLINK
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Subject: atw: Re: Agencies, contractors and other gripes (another 
longish contribution)

Guys - you going to get bogged down again through lack of clear
thinking.

First - there are TWO issues on the agenda which should be kept quite
distinct and separate.

1       Document and communicate the "what is".  This is the easy bit. 
It
should bring quick reward, and be an essential starting point to looking
into accreditation anyway.
2       Set up a system of accreditation

Second - you will do nothing if you start to get bogged down in who 
should
run this.

As far as who is involved is concerned - let volunteers get on with it.
Michelle seems keen, so please let her get on with it. Or two people,
Michelle could run the document what is stage, and Warren could run the 
accreditation stage.   If some of those who volunteer are also involved
with
one, two or a zillion associations, let them volunteer like everyone
else,
and add value where they can.  Who wants to set an agenda, book a room, 
organise a hook-up of some kind, book the date and invite everyone else?
Then do it.  That's it.  Not complicated.

ck.



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g] On Behalf Of Bruce Ashley
Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2007 2:07 PM
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Subject: atw: Re: Agencies, contractors and other gripes (another
longish
contribution)

I'm not knocking either society Michael. I have been on three previous
committees with the ASTC(Vic) (although the last one didn't last very 
long)
so I'm familiar with a lot that goes on in the background.
All I was saying is that accreditation should be ASTC led.
But having said that, I haven't seen the code of ethics either. :)

Cheers, 
Bruce

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Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2007 1:24 PM
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Subject: atw: Re: Agencies, contractors and other gripes (another 
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Bruce Ashley:

> As our 'representative' bodies, both ASTCs should not only be
involved,
but
> should be driving this (they have tinkered with it many times in the 
past).
> In theory, the TW community appoints the committee members of both
societies
> to act on their behalf so why (in theory) would we need to go outside
the
> societies?

Perhaps it's worth remembering that -- in NSW, at least -- the ASTC was 
successful in getting a Code of Ethics defined and agreed. Whether it
has
made
any perceptible difference to the lives of technical communicators is
something I can't begin to guess. But it was a fairly tough problem that 
many
thought was not solvable.


Michael Lewis

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