atw: Re: "the exponential job game" and agencies

Sonya.

I could go on about the unmandated move to VTR or the lack of consultation
on the psychology diploma but these and other issues are best taken
off-line.

If you have special knowledge about the move to VTR or current discussions
with ASTCNSW then I suggest some of these issues get sent to us by email or
get put into our newsletter etc. so that members can know what is going on.

Remember Sonya, the 'merging' of the ASTCs has been talked about for at
least six years that I know of so if it ever goes beyond a discussion, let
us all know. In the mean time, I'll let history be my guide.

BTW, I have always had a good relationship with VTR staff, and their
premises (and my garage) are better than the old place. Even so, in
principle, I agree with Christine on the VTR issue. If our perceptions are
wrong, please educate us and then change committee practices to disseminate
the information better in future (at least to me as I'm a member - sorry
Christine).

And Marcia, I know that the committee are volunteers and some work very hard
and have for many years. Some have even received professional rewards from
doing so. Even so, there is no need to chide us for not putting our hands up
as some of us have been burnt before and refuse to go through the
frustrations again while certain people are still around.

So we stay as members (just) but as members, we still maintain the right to
expect our committee to do the things we ask (within reason and as
appropriate) and advise us on current events. It is not a closed shop only
owned by the few who are on the committee, they are our representatives and
they should only be working for the paid up members.

Well, that my say for now and I'm going nowhere.

Regards,
Bruce Ashley




> -----Original Message-----
> From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sonja McShane
> Sent: Friday, 28 November 2003 10:43 AM
> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: atw: Re: "the exponential job game" and agencies
>
>
> Christine, did you ever bother to ask why that location is
> used for the
> ASTC meetings? Have you ever thought that perhaps there were positives
> to it? I am absolutely dismayed at your comments. I think my blood
> pressure has risen to dangerously high levels and it is not
> safe for me
> to continue to write now (and I am not joking), but I will
> ask the ASTC
> (Vic.) committee to provide details to this list of why the
> meetings are
> held at VTR. For now I can very safely say that absolutely no 'freedom
> of action and behaviour' (and speech for that matter) has been
> compromised using that location. NONE.
>
> And Bruce, how do you know that work hasn't s-t-a-r-t-e-d o-on t-h-e
> p-r-o-c-e-s-s  of further cooperation between the NSW and Vic
> societies?
> Which may or may not lead to something national, but at least
> something
> has s-t-a-r-t-e-d.
>
> Most of you should know that on the whole I am a calm and composed
> person. But I've lost it this time.
>
> More from the committee later.
> Sonja
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> BIRTLEY-KENT,Christine
> Sent: Friday, 28 November 2003 10:16 AM
> To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: atw: Re: "the exponential job game" and agencies
>
>
>
> Erisa >ASTC VIC doesn't seem to have any general business or any
> discussion at meetings just guest speakers.
>
> That may be because of the location of the meetings.  How many people
> are going to whinge about the attitudes of a particular recruitment
> consultant - or in fact anything much - when the meetings are on the
> premises of said consultant with no door between the
> consultant left on
> duty and the meeting?  Hmmm.
>
> Once I realised where the meetings where held, I lost all interest in
> joining the Vic group - as far as I was concerned at the time, it's
> freedom of action and behaviour was severely compromised by its
> location.  I think others may have felt the same thing.  I wonder if
> this has ever been brought to the attention of the committee?
>
> Christine
>
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