atw: Re: Urgent: ITEA for a short-term contract?
- From: "slinka" <slinka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:22:28 +1000
I would like to see the contract and who it is with
Re the bit about you make good any damage: I suspect that is in there for
a redundant reason that you would then be able to be regarded as an
independent contractor. The lawyer that drew it up may have put the clause
in because of a previous situation he knew about that isn't relevant in this
case.
Most agencies will let you work through a company of your own (or a
management company) so why wont they? Who are they?
The main concerns are:
How do you terminate?
How do they terminate?
Could they dock your pay for terminating early?
What distraint clause does it have? ie: Who aren't you allowed to work for
for the next 6 months (or more).
Again it depends who they are whether they enforce the clauses.
Remember most agencies do the standard thing regardless of what their
contracts say.
Also do you have the option do go through a management company?
Is the rate high enough for a casual?
Are you in Canberra? There's no point going to a lawyer here.
Maybe in Melbourne...
In Melbourne you can often be employed just using an ABN with no PAYG.
If you send it to my address offline I will give you an opinion about what
to do
Most will change clauses if you present the case clearly.
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[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stuart Burnfield
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Subject: atw: Urgent: ITEA for a short-term contract?
Hi all -
I went in to an agency today to do the paperwork for a job that's due to
start next week. As always, I expected to spend some time going through
the contract looking for tricks, traps, contradictions, errors, etc.
However, this contract is an ITEA, something I haven't come across
before. There's a lot about it that makes me uneasy, and I wanted to
check with you all to see if anyone's come across it yet.
The job is a 4-month contract with an FBC (Fairly Big Company). I
expected to be employed by the agency on a PAYE basis and farmed out to
the FBC for the fixed term of the contract. (I submit timesheets to the
agency, they cover PI and PL insurance, and so on.)
An ITEA (Individual Transitional Employment Agreement) is a sort of "son
of AWA", brought in by the new government. This contract says:
- I'm employed by the agency on a casual basis. Not sure what the
implications of this are. It does say that casuals are employed on a
'needs basis'???.
- It also says I agree to remain as a casual contractor, contrary to any
provision contained in an Award (???), but the agency can convert me to
part-time or full-time at their discretion.
- The agency can employ me on one more assignments, including with other
clients than FBC. Don't like the sound of this. I want to finish this
contract then look for the next one under my own steam.
- Termination of an Assignment doesn't terminate my employment by the
agency. That is, when I finish my work for FBC I'm still employed by agency.
- I have to indemnify the agency for any loss they may incur because of
loss or damage I cause to the FBC or their customers. Isn't this what PI
and PL are for?
- The 'nominal expiry date' is 31 Dec 2009. This is a standard feature
of ITEAs, not something the agency cooked up, but I still don't
understand what it means. There's an elaborate termination procedure
around the expiry date that involves two letters and declaration form
separated by a 14-day notice period.
There are a few other problems but they're the standard things you
expect to find in a contract. It's the arrangements above that make me
nervous. I'm seeing the recruiter tomorrow to go through these points,
but I'm pretty uneasy about signing this. It's one thing to haggle over
details, another to take something that's wrong and try to change it
point by point to make it look like the right thing.
Has anyone come across these ITEAs and has any advice?
Regards and thanks for your time if you've made it this far.
Stuart
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