atw: Re: Quick grammar question [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
- From: "Silcock, Howard DR" <Howard.Silcock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:53:20 +1100
I thought this was all agreed. But now that an element of dissent has
appeared, I must jump in and support those preferring
'non-district-specific' to 'non-district specific'. The latter looks
ridiculous to me - it's natural to read the hyphen as linking only the
words it's directly attached to, so it looks as if it means 'specific to
non-districts'. And using 'non-district specific' alongside
'district-specific' would be even more ridiculous - if you put a hyphen
between 'district' and 'specific' in one you should certainly be
consistent and do so in the other.
More generally, I'd say there's a problem with attaching prefixes like
'non-' to multi-word phrases that don't already have hyphens. For
instance, if you refer to 'Department of Defence personnel', then it
might seem you could also reasonably refer to 'non-Department of Defence
personnel'. But to me that looks as ridiculous as 'non-district
specific' and for the same reason: it looks as if you're talking about
personnel from a non-Department dedicated to Defence matters, or maybe
just Defence personnel from a non-Department (whatever that is). In
cases like this, I think the only solution is to rephrase the whole
thing.
Some people put 'non' in without any hyphen at all, but to me that looks
even worse, because 'non' isn't a word in its own right any more than
'pre' or 'anti' are.
And what about 'global'? That would be the best solution, I agree, as
long as it makes sense in the context.
Maybe we should all just forget about this and look forward to our
holidays...
Howard
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[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jill Nicholson
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 14:17
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Subject: atw: Re: Quick grammar question
No, only 2, it is non-district specific.
In haste
Happy Holidays/Xmas/Whatever Jill Nicholson
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Jill
----- Original Message -----
From: Sonja McShane <mailto:smcshane@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:58 AM
Subject: atw: Quick grammar question
A quick question for the grammarish types. When there
are two categories of information, district-specific and
non-district-specific, do I put the two hyphens in the second one? I'm
pretty sure I do, but not 100%. (It's one of those
very-slow-to-get-the-brain-in-gear mornings!)
Thanks,
Sonja
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