atw: Re: New Topic - How much of our expertise are we willing to pass on?
- From: Elizabeth Fullerton <Elizabeth_Fullerton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:12:14 +1100
I'm currently mentoring someone who's showing an interest in this stuff. Sure,
if I do my job well they could supplant me (er... not that it's my official
role anyway, but what if they turn out to be really good, and then get more
kudos than me??!) - but I've learned a lot of stuff from other people, and I
think it's better for the company as a whole for people to be more efficient in
what they do. It's good to give back. What goes around, comes around, etc.
And realistically, how much danger do you think we will be in if we pass on our
knowledge? - I regularly help people with their documents, and only a very
small percentage can be bothered remembering what I show them, anyway!
From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of hackers@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2009 3:55 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Jacqueline Mooney
Subject: atw: New Topic - How much of our expertise are we willing to pass on?
Hi
For 9 years I have been following the posts and in the first 6 of those I
contributed often/occasionally. For a while (had a child, did part time/short
term contracts/not dead yet) I read only.
I have been reading all, but have been-not alarmed-but confused about who
benefits/gains knowledge when some of the disussions grow into, what on line at
least, DOES look abusive. We pride ourselves on being communicators ( I thought
that what we did was broader then just the ability to create a flawless
procedure or technical drawing.) Technology is great, BUT, for a really good
discussion AND TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER, does it work? Face to face I know can
work. Why not, if there is a major disussion of interest, don't we say --- lets
skip this any further on line, and get together in some cheapish place and
discuss it face-to-face. I believe that this is still a better learning
(exchange of ideas/knowledge/likes/dislikes .life experiences)/arguing
environment than on-line.
Anyway, I was going to ask what the professionals thought about trainiing
others in thier workplaces, full time or contract in thier companies to at
least recognise what communicatiion is and how to decide the best medium etc.
How many of you would like the people you work with to be more skilled and how
many would feel it to be a threat??
I know that most of you are technical writers, but that is a hugely broad
spectrum. How much of what you do is training your clients to maintain what you
have created and move on?
If some of your clients began to be more able, would you consider this a good
thing OR a threat?
Cheers
Chris
p.s: If anyone knows how to get the latest O/E to spell check English instead
of French I would be very grateful.
Original Message -----
From: Christine Kent<mailto:christine_kent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:52 AM
Subject: atw: Re: Can you have Office 2007 installed at the same time as Office
2003 (and different instances running concurrently)? - UPDATE
Outlook 2007 is fine. The one gotcha is that occasionally, when you open it,
it doesn't appear, so you open it again... and again... You have to go into
file manager, kill all instances and start again. The same thing can happen
when closing it. You think it is closed but it is still there somewhere.
Again, file manager to the rescue.
So if you have anything weird happen with Outlook 2007 go straight to file
manager and fix it from there.
ck
From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Fullerton
Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2009 11:45 AM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: Can you have Office 2007 installed at the same time as Office
2003 (and different instances running concurrently)? - UPDATE
I thought I'd let you know that I've got this working (as far as I can tell).
I initially tried installing 2007, but our company has the install files
configured to blatt 2003, so once I realised this, I cancelled out, only by
this time it had blatted 2003. I was able to reinstall 2003 (didn't even lose
my Normal.dot, for which I was very grateful, I hadn't backed it up!) - but
having blatted Outlook 2003, I couldn't reinstall it (short story - I've been
using the Outlook webmail interface for the last few days...).
I did the recommended research, and discovered that you can use the command
line to open up the setup configuration editor, so I created a new setup
configuration file which said not to blatt any previous versions of Office
(there are heaps of things in there by the way, might be interesting to
investigate one day). Then, of course, it demanded the product key, which
wasn't available to me, because it was all embedded in the original config
file, so I had to wait a couple of days for someone to find it for me (though,
now I'm wonderng if I could have accessed it using the setup config editor...)
(I've been a bit stupid lately, so it's entirely possible).
Anyway, now running Outlook 2007, which I don't mind because it hasn't really
fundamentally changed. And have successfully opened Word 2003 and 2007 - I'm
assuming the rest works ok, too.
From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Fullerton
Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 4:20 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: Can you have Office 2007 installed at the same time as Office
2003 (and different instances running concurrently)?
Ah, good information, I'll check out Woody.
Thanks.
________________________________
From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lewington, Warren J
(WT)
Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 4:07 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: Can you have Office 2007 installed at the same time as Office
2003 (and different instances running concurrently)?
You can have one of two configuration types with regards to Office 2007 and
2003.
There is a registry level change required to run them efficiently concurrently,
which apparently creates separate instances of the offending dlls that
otherwise conflict or something like that - definitely to run them seamlessly
you need to edit the registry. Information is available from a variety of
sources, (Woodys Office Watch is one who explored that ad infinitum as they
sometimes do). Occasionally, as Christine has found you may not need to do that.
The other option which I have done is have both versions of the software but I
don't need to run them concurrently. I don't care about the Outlook overwrite
if indeed that happened so have never checked; I only need either 2007 or 2003
programs. In fact I may have loaded just the relevant programmes I needed in
any case. Don't remember. Anyway, you can run one or other version of 2003 or
2007 individually without problems on the one machine.
Word does seem to work better at matching table and paragraph styles although
the separate selection functions for tables and styles and formatting in 2007
is a difference. PowerPoint is a different beast.
Regards,
Warren
________________________________
From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Fullerton
Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 15:35
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Can you have Office 2007 installed at the same time as Office
2003 (and different instances running concurrently)?
Hi all
I think in a recent (long-winded and somewhat ranty) thread someone mentioned
being able to have Word 2003 installed at the same time as Word 2007 - is this
correct or was I just dreaming (or brain reeling from slogging through the
long-winded and ranty thread)?
I'm modifying a previously 2007 Powerpoint slide pack for someone, and my 2003
graphics just don't match up. I'd like to have both versions on my machine at
once, so I can learn the new stuff at my leisure. (I did actually snaffle a
second machine for this stuff, but it's at home for my spare time - it would be
much handier to have it all together in the one place. Assuming you could run
the different versions concurrently and they didn't make little streamers of
smoke come out the back of my machine. Or out of my ears.)
Thanks
Elizabeth Fullerton, CBAP(r)
Business Solutions Architect
Infosys Australia
Ph: +61 3 9911 3507
Fax: +61 3 9911 3398
www.infosys.com<http://www.infosys.com>
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