atw: Re: Macros in Word 2007

 

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From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Howard Silcock
Sent: Friday, 20 February 2009 5:04 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: Macros in Word 2007

 

Um, that isn't quite what I said. I will be doing a course some time, but
certainly not next week. I've volunteered to be part of a pilot
installation. It will be installed on my workstation and I'll get help from
people as I need it. You could say I'm jumping in at the deep end. I do
*want* to master it in one stroke, but my connection to reality isn't quite
severed, so I recognise I'm unlikely to achieve what I want. But I'm always
curious to find out what new features are available and probably won't rest
till I've found them all, so if there's a way to accommodate my toolbar's
functionality I'll probably work it out. And when I do get on a course I'll
probably have lots of questions...

 

Howard

2009/2/20 Christine Kent <christine_kent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Great, I am so glad you are doing a course.  Most other people just want to
open the product and master it in a single stroke.  More power to you.  

 

However, make sure the course covers the items I have listed.  Many courses
are 2003 courses updated with 2007 screens.  They don't cover the new
features, only the new screen layout.

 

But my principal point still stands.  Come back to these questions AFTER you
have done the course and learned the power of the features I have listed.

 

Christine

 

From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Howard Silcock
Sent: Friday, 20 February 2009 4:30 PM 


To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: Macros in Word 2007

 

Hey, Christine

 

I'm not sure what makes you think I'm "refusing to consider learning the
product". Which bit of what I said did you infer that from?  I have just got
myself onto the pilot program and it looks like I may be making the
transition next week.

 

My questions were more about how I'm going to set myself up when I do
move...

Howard

2009/2/20 Christine Kent <c.bkent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Howard

 

Learn the software then raise these issues.  Most of them are irrelevant
non-issues.  You are doing what everyone else has done for the last 2 years.
You are refusing to consider learning the product.  If you were moving from
Word to FrameMaker, you would assume that you had to take some time to learn
the product.  So take some time to learn this product and then look at your
questions again.  You will find that most of them have dematerialised,
courtesy the new functionality.  Pooof.

 

Suzy has done the same.  She has raised non-issues - I think, if I have
understood them right, and as for Warren.

 

Put commands on the QAT as you need them - it is a one-step operation and
every single command can go there.

Learn QAT and Building Blocks then review macros. Pooof

Learn Themes, then review fonts. Pooof

Learn Managing Styles, the Styles Task Bar and the Styles Gallery, then
review styles.  Pooof

 

I am waiting for the time when someone/anyone has gotten far enough into
2007 to hit the real limitations rather than these fantasy limitations -
there are some, and I look forward to getting involved in real discussions.

 

Christine

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Howard Silcock
Sent: Friday, 20 February 2009 3:34 PM 


To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: Macros in Word 2007

 

Maybe I'm jumping the gun - I thought I was being sensible and trying to get
myself prepared. 

 

I've just done a quick audit of my toolbar: it has 60 macros, 5 favourite
fonts, 13 favourite styles, 27 symbols and 3 built-in commands. So you can
see why I needed the folder hierachy. 

 

Can you put fonts on the QAT?

 

Howard

2009/2/20 Christine Kent <christine_kent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

With 2007, don't jump the gun.

 

As others have said, your toolbars are still there, just one layer deeper.
They are not "more difficult" to access, just one step further away.

 

This means you can continue to use them, but the nuisance value of one more
step will encourage you to think about alternatives.  

 

Moving to 2007 needs to be looked at as an change to a new product, and
treated with the respect that you would treat the change to a new product.
There are lots of new functions that will replace the need for some of the
old functions you currently have on your toolbars.

 

You will do some of it with the Quick Access Toolbar, which can be defined
at Normal Template, Template and document level, giving a high level of
control over what you get to display on that single toolbar.

 

Then you have the much enhanced control over styles supplied by the Styles
Task Pane which is much more powerful than anything that has come before,
and additional display options provided by the Styles Gallery.

 

You can also do some pretty amazing things with Building Blocks which are a
significant evolution from the old auto-text.

 

Over time, you will adapt to these new functions and gradually your use of
the old toolbars will diminish if not be replaced altogether.  In summary,
eventually you will NOT WANT to RECREATE what you had before, so don't waste
time up front trying.

 

Look at the link below for instructions.

 

http://christinekent.blogspot.com/2009/01/myths-and-fears-and-disappearance-
of.html

 

Christine

 

 

From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Howard Silcock
Sent: Friday, 20 February 2009 12:30 PM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: Macros in Word 2007

 

Thanks to those who responded. It's good to know about the Add-ins tab. I
got one of my colleagues who is part of a pilot group for the installation
to open my template and we couldn't see the toolbar - but I didn't know to
look there.

 

However, it looks as if I'll need to do a bit of work to recreate anything
like I currently have.

 

Howard



 

2009/2/20 Kofler, Mark <Mark.Kofler@xxxxxx>

As far as I can tell you cannot organise commands on the Quick Access
toolbar into folders. However you can add any Word command to the Quick
Access toolbar. There is also a tab called Add-ins on the ribbon which may
be what you are looking for. When we upgraded to 2007, our custom toolbars
ended up displayed on this tab. To see the Add-ins installed click the
Microsoft Office Button , click Word Options, and then click Add-Ins.

Also the on-line help has good information on this.

There is also a Developer tab where macros templates etc can be accessed.
This is not displayed by default however:

Click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Word Options. 

Click Popular, and then select the Show Developer tab in the Ribbon check
box.

IMHO, the new Word 2003 interface is far superior to the old one and does a
very good job of preventing "toolbar creep". 

Cheers, Mark 

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From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Howard Silcock 


Sent: Friday, 20 February 2009 11:02 AM

To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Macros in Word 2007

 

We are rapidly approaching our move to Office 2007 in my workplace and I'm
starting to think about how my own set-up is going to transfer to the new
environment. 

 

Over the years I've developed quite a library of macros and in my Office
2003 set-up I've created my own custom toolbar with about 20 folders. Each
folder serves as a 'menu' of commands - some are built-in commands, some
frequently used styles, fonts, etc, but many are my own macros. In fact, in
some cases, these items are grouped into subfolders and even subsubfolders.
My question is whether I'm going to be able to recreate something similar in
Word 2007, since as far as I now it doesn't even use toolbars.

 

The obvious place to start would seem to be the Quick Access Toolbar, but
does it allow you to group commands into folders?

 

Has anyone else played with this kind of problem?

 

Howard

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