atw: Re: Let's calm down, apologies, and other things

Chris, 

You strike me as a very intelligent person in search of a sympathetic
audience (read "forum"). 

I, for one, will never understand you. When I studied ontology at Oxford
University, it meant nothing like what your web page tells me it means:
""Ontology : An ontology is similar to a dictionary or glossary, but with
greater detail and structure that enables computers to process its content.
An ontology consists of a set of concepts, axioms, and relationships that
describe a domain of interest." You just won't find that in any mainstream
philosophy textbook, old or new: an ontological argument for the existence
of god based on a *dictionary or glossary*! I'd like to see that. We (that
is, old-fashioned philosophers with a penchant for exactitude) use the same
words as you; but we mean utterly different things. That is not
communication. That was the problem with post-modernism: Alice in Wonderland
"ontologies". Let words mean what you like. Vale post-modernism. The flowers
are in the mail.

I suspect that very few, if any, practising technical writers have a clue
about, or are even interested in, ontology, IDM, bosons, ying and yang, and
the meaning of life as viewed through any one of the various I Ching prisms.
Perhaps, given the mission statement (forgive me, Don Watson) of this forum,
you should, in future, explicitly state how your posting relates to the
practices, tools, methodologies and the like that technical writers care
about. Otherwise, Chris, you run the risk that no-one (on this forum, at
least) will read you. You are, to put it kindly, off this particular
instruction-focused planet. A neurosurgeon discussing how to resect a
temporal lobe glioma shares about the same relevance.

But I'm sure there is an audience for you, somewhere.

To ying. Or is it to yang.

 
Geoffrey Marnell
Principal Consultant
Abelard Consulting Pty Ltd
T: +61 3 9596 3456
F: +61 3 9596 3625
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Geoffrey Marnell
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> 
> Chris,
> 
> Can you give me "The Idiots Guide to ..." version. You lost 
> me at the first paragraph, and later had me wondering if I 
> was a hermaphrodite, or someone in need of gender 
> realignment. (Maybe that would improve my technical
> writing?)
> 
> For a moment I thought your book on I Ching was subtitled 
> "Vague Language"
> rather than "The Language of the Vague". Still, your posting 
> prompts me to
> ask: Were I to buy your book, would I understand it? I have a 
> PhD from the 1980s, when precision was all the rage; so I may 
> have trouble with your post-modernistic, gender-drenched 
> abstractionism. Would a Bertrand-Russell-Alfred-Ayer mindset 
> like mine get to within a cooee of your juicy continental truths?
> 

The Emotional I Ching text is focused on the I Ching and the identification
of its language nature, based on  detailed analysis of the properties of
recursion used in our brains  - as covered in the IDM work
(http://www.emotionaliching.com/AbstractD.html ). The focus brings out some
'truth' behind the 'madness' of divination etc - there is no magic or
randomness involved, it is all about the ONE method we use as a species to
derive meaning and the many specialist perspectives we have derived from
such (due to ignorance of the method until recent times where neuroscience
has revealed what is going on)

If your interested in the neurological roots of meaning, and that includes
the basic categories used in specialisations such as categories of numbers
we use in Mathematics and the foundations of logic etc then IDM can be of
interest to someone grounded in Analytical Philosophy/positivism - although
it can be a touch upsetting to some.

The current edition of the Emotional I Ching text is 510 pages with the
first 50+ pages available as a .pdf file on the website to familiarise the
reader with the book content. Since the text is derived from considerations
of the traditional, divinational, perspective, there is a link on the
website that covers such material - but to USE the EIC such material is not
really necessary - there is no dependency on ancient Chinese etc etc etc
(see the 50 page introduction) but identifying the etymology can aid in
understanding the development of consciousness from a 'vague', mythic, form
into the detailed mediations skills developed today.

If you are not interested in reading or in tracking down references etc,
then try-out the simple application on the website (page down the home page)
- it is vague but is found to generate a resonance between what one assesses
and the derived I Ching representation. As I pointed out in a previous post
covering assessments of audiences, the questions can be changed as long as
the generic form is retained - asymmetric dichotomies layered general to
particular.

There is a reference list in the book (as is the IDM abstract as an
appendix) or if you need more then see the raw, pre-EIC material, drafts
covering such as "Categories of Mediation":

http://www.emotionaliching.com/myweb/categoriesTheory.pdf (included defs of
terms and tie to the logic operators of XOR, EQV, and IMP where such are
encoded into our brains and cover anti-symmetry, symmetry, and asymmetry)

http://www.emotionaliching.com/myweb/categoriesPractice.pdf (covers
fight/flight and yang/yin and the development of the EIC)

or see the earlier draft "Language of the Vague":

http://www.emotionaliching.com/myweb/Vague.pdf

or the original IDM web pages:

http://www.emotionaliching.com/myweb/idm001.html


> Anyway I would probably be irreversibly distracted by the 
> sort of thinking
> -- symmetric, asymmetric, parasymmetric or whatever -- that 
> has me realigning my education to accept that bosons and 
> fermions (once considered classes of sub-atomic particles) 
> were really statistics.
> But then again you probably assumed 
> that the austechwriter audience, being masters of quantum 
> physics, would know that you were really talking about the 
> statistics EXHIBITED BY bosons and fermions, and not the 
> bosons and fermions themselves ...
>

LOL! The realm of BOSONS utilises Bose-Einstein statistics as does the realm
of FERMIONS utilise Dirac-Fermi statistics. The properties and
characteristics of such conform to a more generic focus on patterns of
anti-symmetry (differentiating, pulse-like) vs patterns of symmetry
(integrating, wave-like).

The IDM material covers the brain structure dynamics of (a) aspects analysis
(anti-symmetry, use of XOR), (b) wholes analysis (symmetry, use of EQV) and
(c) mediation (asymmetry, language creation and use of IMP (implies) - this
being the only asymmetric logic operator and it allows us to reason
backwards)
 
IOW no matter what scale we operate from we will discover the SAME patterns;
labels aid in differentiating the contexts in which the patterns occur. See
the diagram in the EIC intro or IDM summary.

The patterns cover ALL of our categorisations such that I can apply
recursion to a dichotomy such as fight/flight and to yang/yin and then map
meanings from one to the other. We see here the foundations of
analogy/metaphor and the emergence of abstraction from the single context,
sensory-system-grounded, concrete nature of our neurology (See diagrams in
the EIC or IDM material).

In the context of persona categorisations, the MBTI and Jung's original work
(as is the Big-5 etc) are all grounded in layering of dichotomies and the
isomorphism present means the EIC questions can be used to identify classes
of consciousness that correlate well with MBTI categories (and in fact
transcend such). From a writer's perspective, understanding the classes of
consciousness and their make-up can aid in dealing with those classes - some
assumptions can be made such that only unique differences then need be
understood.

<snip>
> 
> Analyse me, Dr Lofting. Let's leave Christine alone for a while.
> 

who?

Chris
http://www.emotionaliching.com


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