atw: Re: Humbled
- From: "Matthew da Silva" <mdasilva@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:31:44 +1000
Nigel I like the way you express yourself. From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dawes, Nigel Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 1:38 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Humbled My personal (and spiritual) definition of the word "humility" is, "to honestly appraise one's own ability and accept one's own limits". I should include the caveat that accepting one's own limits doesn't necessarily mean one is confined by them, however. One should always strive to transcend one's self (blah blah). Humility is an excellent character trait and is the cornerstone of inner peace. While admittedly there are some standout sports stars who are genuinely humble (e.g. Kelly Slater), they're few and far between and the term is applied far too loosely IMO and the meaning is lost. __________________________________ Commonwealth Bank Nigel Dawes Distributed Architecture Enterprise IT Solutions L13, 363 George Street Sydney NSW 2000 T: (02) 8292 4435 E: nigel.dawes@xxxxxxxxxx <blocked::mailto:nigel.dawes@xxxxxxxxxx> From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew da Silva Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 12:34 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Humbled Going against the grain here, but I think this usage is absolutely rhetorically acceptable. It's common usage to pronounce oneself "humbled" upon achieving something noteworthy ( -- my point is exactly that it is 'common usage', and therefore suspect), and I think there is legitimate "humble" feeling behind it (this is just an opinion, and furthermore only supported by circular argument: "There is a 'legitimate' feel to it because it is common usage"). Often, we don't see our achievements in the glowing light that others do, and we may feel that our competition performed just as well or better and therefore feel surprised and grateful that at the end of the day, the chips fell our way. ________________________________ Subject: atw: Re: Humbled Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:10:47 +1000 From: mdasilva@xxxxxxxxxxx To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Humbleness can provide a utilitarian good, ie provide a masking effect that will benefit the individual who deploys this narrative in this way. Being perceived as 'humble' reduces one's susceptibility to attack from outside. In real terms, however, it is unlikely that the person is actually humble, especially if being required to 'step up to a new level'. Under these conditions, 'real' humbleness will probably be more of a liability than anything else. IMHO ;) From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Petersen Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 11:27 AM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Humbled Maybe they've been eating humble pie (Kim Beazley's favourite meal). ;-) Kathy Bowman wrote: Have you noticed that every sports star these days is 'humbled' when they achieve a milestone or receive an award? Has the meaning of this word changed? I'm not sure what they mean when they say it, and I suspect they don't know either. Hmmm, I hope this is not sour grapes because my team (Port Adelaide) did not make it to the finals this year! cheers Kath -- David Petersen Documentation Coordinator Air Systems Thales Australia Thales Australia Centre WTC Northbank Wharf Concourse Level, Siddeley Street Melbourne, VIC 3005 Australia Tel: +61 3 8630 4593 david.petersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | www.thalesgroup.com.au DISCLAIMER: This e-mail transmission and any documents, files and previous e-mail messages attached to it are private and confidential. They may contain proprietary or copyright material or information that is subject to legal professional privilege. They are for the use of the intended recipient only. Any unauthorised viewing, use, disclosure, copying, alteration, storage or distribution of, or reliance on, this message is strictly prohibited. No part may be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the written permission of the owner. 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