Peter isn't the one wasting time here - the original request was a simple q= uery for information on how to process text to make it accessible for searc= h macros. There are useful aspects to the copyright discussion (we are currently tryi= ng to manage this in an R&D project agreement), but don't jump on the origi= nal requester because the quibblers have been having a field day about issu= es that some of them don't seem to know a lot about. Bill Hall Documentation Systems Analyst Head Office, Engineering Tenix Defense Williamstown, Vic. 3016 Phone: 03 9244 4820 Email:bill.hall@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.tenix.com Honorary Research Fellow Knowledge Management Lab School of Information Management & Systems Monash University Caulfield East, Vic. 3145 Phone: 03 9903 1883 Email: william.hall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.sims.monash.edu.au/research/km/ =20 | -----Original Message----- | From: Andrew Jeffery [mailto:andrewj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] | Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2003 3:59 PM | To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Subject: atw: Re: Copyright - legislation |=20 |=20 | Actually if something is 'in the public domain', it may be used by all | and sundry. |=20 | My brother manages some small regional newspapers and he often finds | that the 'his stories', i.e. stories that his newspaper or journalists | have unearthed, are often on the local regional TV stations. The | newspaper receives no credit and there is nothing that he can=20 | do legally | (and yes, this was confirmed by the newspapers' legal eagles), because | the story is now 'in the public domain' |=20 | Finally, would it not be easier to phone the relevant=20 | parliament (or if | o/seas legislation, then its' representative in Oz) to clarify if you | can use it rather than wasting everyone's time over it?? |=20 | -----Original Message----- | From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=20 | Petra Liverani | Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2003 3:15 PM | To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Subject: atw: Re: Copyright - legislation |=20 |=20 | Hi Peter, |=20 | > While the legislation may be in the public domain, this=20 | does not mean=20 | > you can automatically use another person's or company's=20 | hard work in=20 | > gathering, collating, scanning, cleaning and overall=20 | creative ability, |=20 | > without permission! |=20 | I don't know what your definition of public domain is. I=20 | thought a work | in the public domain meant that it could be freely used by anyone | without asking permission - that doesn't mean it shouldn't be | acknowledged - there's a difference between passing something off as | your own or using it with acknowledgement. I could quote huge=20 | tracts of | Henry James without paying a copyright fee but I wouldn't=20 | want to try to | say I wrote them myself. In the case of leglisation, its source is the | most significant aspect to it, so people are hardly not going to | acknowledge it. Besides, who'd want to take credit for the writing of | most legislation? |=20 | Regards, | Petra |=20 | ************************************************** | To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to | austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx |=20 | To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to | austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject | field. |=20 | To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. |=20 | To search the austechwriter archives, go to | www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter |=20 | To contact the list administrator, send a message to | austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | ************************************************** |=20 | --=20 | This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by | MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. |=20 |=20 | --=20 | This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous=20 | content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. |=20 | ************************************************** | To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to=20 | austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx |=20 | To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to=20 | austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the=20 | Subject field. |=20 | To unsubscribe, send a message to=20 | austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the=20 | Subject field. |=20 | To search the austechwriter archives, go to=20 | www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter |=20 | To contact the list administrator, send a message to=20 | austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | ************************************************** |=20 ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. 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