atw: Re: Contract opportunity - things that make me mad!!!

Hi Stuart.


>Bruce wrote:
>> We all do what we have to do, but when does a rate
>> become too low too accept? $25.00 p/h? How about $20.00?
>> Would you even accept $15.00 per hour?
>
>You know it's become too low when you decide not to accept it,
>either because you can do better elsewhere or because you'd
>rather not work than work for that rate.
>
>Bruce, you seem to be treating TWs and TW jobs as commodities--
>we can all pretty much do the same jobs, it's just that some
>of us are willing to work for much less, which drags down the
>rate for the rest of us.
>

That is my point. Once you get past a certain level of knowledge/experience,
the differences become more subtle so it becomes hard to justify a current
rate of, say $60 p/h, when your supposed peers are accepting $33 (I'm
full-time BTW so I am arguing from a current point of principle).

>
>I don't think that's the case. There are jobs that don't require
>advanced skills and that clients aren't prepared to pay much for.
>They can be done by less-experienced TWers and that's a good
>thing, because otherwise how would any of us get our start?
>Experienced TWs with specialist skills aren't in that market so
>it doesn't really affect us.

The thread was started by Debbie because the ad request senior skills but
only offered $33 p/h.

>
>Let's move on from the real estate analogy to the beer analogy:
>
--snip

The analogies didn't fit to me, but I understand what you are trying to say.

>
>> For example, I've just gone through a pay review where our salary ranges
>are
>> determined by the 'industry' and the figures are fed directly from
>agencies
>> surveys.
>
>Does this survey not make any distinction between junior and senior
>positions?

Sure, but if people with senior skills are working for $33 p/h and if
recruiters do not know the difference between the different 'senior' skill
sets, then we are all lumped together into broad salary groups. Until we go
through an accreditation process (based on skills/knowledge) this will
always be the case.

>
>> Each year, it becomes harder to justify MY salary
>
>Why not take another job that will pay you the salary you deserve?

Because Bill Gates already has the job (sorry, I couldn't resist :)).

Anyway, history has shown that people will accept any rate from $20 p/h
upwards regardless of what you or I say. If they need it to eat then good
luck to them. I just wish they would look longer term and hold off a bit.

Anyway, that's my final whinge on the matter (for this round anyway:))

'ave a good'n folks.

Cheers.

>
>Cheers
>
>Stuart
>
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