atw: Re: Australian Standards for Letters
- From: Ros Byrne <ros.byrne@xxxxxxx>
- To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:34:48 +1100
Well found, Rod!
Now that I see this, I realise that the AMS layout would probably
REALLY freak out Christine's target audience, as it's the style that
omits both the salutation (Dear Fred) and the 'complimentary
close' (Yours sincerely).
I understand that research in the UK by a large govt dept showed that
most recipients of this style did not notice the omissions.
Despite that findimg, the omitted features are still expected in most
(Aussie) correspondence, so I do NOT recommend AMS Simplified Letter
style for most ordinary situations.
However, I see that the site on which you found this link, Rod, also
had example of Block Style/Open Punctuation which is how I'd describe
most Australian current usage. http://www.wausau.k12.wi.us/east/Student%20Files/BE2005/Reference%20Manual%20Final/BusinessLetterBlock.htm
(or navigate back to it from the AMS page).
Christine, some ammo for you: this example of Block Style (no
indented paras or Inside Address) and Open Punctuation (no commas at
line endings of formal parts of the letter) is so old that it still
includes 'Reference Initials' - from the days of typing pools, eh!
What all this really shows is that it's important to view corro in the
same way an effective author views any communication: what's the
purpose, what's the audience - and take it from there.
ros
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WORDS THAT WORK
Training & Coaching in Workplace Communication
http://www.canberra.edu.au/pmp/program/courses/words-work
On 28/10/2008, at 10:33 AM, Rod Stuart wrote:
Is this of any help?
<http://www.wausau.k12.wi.us/east/Student%20Files/BE2005/Reference%20Manual%20Final/AMSBusinessLetter.htm
>
2008/10/28 Christine Kent <christine_kent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi Ros
Can you do me a favour if you get the time - can you dig out your
old AP
style guide and see if it says anything about letter layout? I
think we may
have found the culprit. 1970s would be about right for these teachers.
Christine
-----Original Message-----
From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ros Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2008 8:54 AM
To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: atw: Re: Australian Standards for Letters
Good point about address layout, Daryl!
The link didn't work for me, but if others are interested, go to the
Australia Post homepage (http://www.auspost.com.au) and put Address
Format in the search box.
ros
PS: Speaking of fossilesque matters, I still have my old hard-copy of
the Australia Post Style guide from the 1970s - the kind that had the
manual updates stuffed in front instead of being filed in the correct
section etc. Memories... :)
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Ros Byrne
WORDS THAT WORK
Training & Coaching in Workplace Communication
http://www.canberra.edu.au/pmp/program/courses/words-work
On 28/10/2008, at 7:23 AM, Daryl Colquhoun wrote:
>> Question 1 - Does anyone know where I can find Australian Standards
>> for the layout and presentation of letters (correspondence).
>
> Interestingly enough, the German standard relating to this very
> thing was for several decades DIN's (German Institute for
> Standardization) best-seller. (I learned this by looking at the
> display at the DIN's headquarters; I can't find a web reference.) So
> naturally I thought Australia would have one. However, enquiries of
> SAI Global, including a phone call, suggest that there is no such
> standard. I suggest that you trawl their website yourself and ring
> them, to double-check.
>
> I note Brian's sad comments (quaintly phrased in terms of an
> obsolete unit of measure). Still, if want to have a go as
> browbeating fossilesque colleagues, you could refer to Australia
> Post. They don't make standards but they are explicit on at least
> how to set out the address; see
http://www.auspost.com.au/BCP/0,1467,CH2092
> ~MO19,00.html.
>
>
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Is this of any help?<http://www.wausau.k12.wi.us/east/Student%20Files/BE2005/Reference%20Manual%20Final/AMSBusinessLetter.htm >
2008/10/28 Christine Kent <christine_kent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Hi RosCan you do me a favour if you get the time - can you dig out your old AP style guide and see if it says anything about letter layout? I think we may
have found the culprit. 1970s would be about right for these teachers. Christine -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ros Byrne Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2008 8:54 AM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Australian Standards for Letters Good point about address layout, Daryl! The link didn't work for me, but if others are interested, go to the Australia Post homepage (http://www.auspost.com.au) and put Address Format in the search box. ros PS: Speaking of fossilesque matters, I still have my old hard-copy of the Australia Post Style guide from the 1970s - the kind that had the manual updates stuffed in front instead of being filed in the correct section etc. Memories... :) __ Ros Byrne WORDS THAT WORK Training & Coaching in Workplace Communication http://www.canberra.edu.au/pmp/program/courses/words-work On 28/10/2008, at 7:23 AM, Daryl Colquhoun wrote: >> Question 1 - Does anyone know where I can find Australian Standards >> for the layout and presentation of letters (correspondence). > > Interestingly enough, the German standard relating to this very > thing was for several decades DIN's (German Institute for > Standardization) best-seller. (I learned this by looking at the > display at the DIN's headquarters; I can't find a web reference.) So > naturally I thought Australia would have one. However, enquiries of > SAI Global, including a phone call, suggest that there is no such > standard. I suggest that you trawl their website yourself and ring > them, to double-check. > > I note Brian's sad comments (quaintly phrased in terms of an > obsolete unit of measure). Still, if want to have a go as > browbeating fossilesque colleagues, you could refer to Australia > Post. They don't make standards but they are explicit on at least > how to set out the address; see http://www.auspost.com.au/BCP/0,1467,CH2092 > ~MO19,00.html. > > > Emails sent to this address are deleted unread as an anti-spam > measure. > ************************************************** > To view the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter > > To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter- > request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field > (without quotes). > > To manage your subscription (e.g., set and unset DIGEST and VACATION > modes) go to www.freelists.org/list/austechwriter > > To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ************************************************** ************************************************** To view the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriterTo unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter- request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with
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- atw: Re: Australian Standards for Letters
- From: Daryl Colquhoun
- atw: Re: Australian Standards for Letters
- From: Ros Byrne
- atw: Re: Australian Standards for Letters
- From: Christine Kent
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- From: Rod Stuart