[audacity4blind] Re: A Timing Problem
- From: David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:10:53 +0100 (BST)
Hi Eric,
try this:
1. Open audacity.
2. press R to record, say the numbers one, two, three, and so on up until ten,
and then spacebar to stop.
3. If you then press space bar to play you should then hear yourself counting
up to ten.
4. press R to record again, and say a few sentences - perhaps how you feel
about audacity, and space bar to stop. This will be recorded in another track.
5. If you then press spacebar to play you should hear yourself counting, and
saying the sentences.
6. Set the first track to unselected, and the second to be selected.
7. Press spacebar to play, and after you hear yourself saying five, press the ]
key to move the cursor, and press spacebar to stop.
8. If you now press spacebar to play it will play from the new cursor position,
and you'll hear counting from six, and part way through of your sentences.
9. Open the tracks menu, open the align tracks sub menu, and choose align with
cursor. This moves the selected track, the second track so that it starts at
the cursor position.
10. If you press spacebar to play then you shoud hear counting from six, and
the beginning of your sentences.
11. If you press home to move the cursor to time zero, and then press spacebar
to play, you should hear counting from one, and the sentences should start
after you get to five.
David.
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 3:40
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: A Timing Problem
I tried the steps and it didn't work.
I aligned the cursor with the selected track and selected a time, and
the other track that I didn't select before still selected the same
time as the other. Also, I've found a friend has this exact problem
with version 2.03 and we both have not done anything to mess with the
preferences.
I apologize for being unclear, but please know that I have tried the
suggestions and it hasn't worked.
On 8/16/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
> | Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:40:06 -0600
> | Subject: A Timing Problem
>> I'm sorry I'm not being clear enough.
>>
>> When I use the left bracket on a track to adjust the starting time,
>> any other tracks selected or otherwise move on the time I just
>> selected.
>
> No other tracks move when using left bracket [ . All left and
> right bracket do is to move the cursor or the selection.
>
> Audacity only has one time range in each project window. So
> yes the cursor or selection will move in all the tracks. Using an
> older version of Audacity will not change that.
>
> If your desire is to move a selected track, what goes wrong when
> you use Tracks > Align Tracks > Align with Cursor as suggested?
> Here are steps that might help.
>
> 1 Select the track you want to move. Deselect all other tracks.
>
> 2 If you have a selection in the project that you don't want,
> press HOME on your keyboard to remove that selection. This
> is optional. The Tracks > Align Tracks > Align with Cursor
> command that you are about to use will align the selected
> track(s) with either the cursor or with the start of the
> selection. The cursor or selection will not move.
>
> 3 Use left bracket and enter the time at which you want the
> selected track to start. Press OK.
>
> 4 Choose Tracks > Align Tracks > Align with Cursor. The selected
> track now starts at the time you chose but the unselected tracks
> stay where they were.
>
> The above works in Audacity 2.0.3 from:
> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/.
>
>
>> just noticed that I am unable to copy a track or apply an effect.
>
> Try pressing SPACE to stop playback or recording.
>
>
>
> Gale
>
>
>> On 8/15/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > | Wed, 14 Aug 2013 18:47:47 -0600
>> > | Subject: A Timing Problem
>> >> Alas, the other track always stays at the same selection the selected
>> >> track is on.
>> >
>> > When doing what? Please give us steps to reproduce the problem
>> > then we may be able to see what the problem is.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Even when no tracks are selected, both tracks play at the
>> >> same time
>> >
>> > It's by design that audibility depends on solo/mute status and
>> > not on selectedness.
>> >
>> >
>> >> and both move together when selected.
>> >>
>> >> I don't want to seem cynical, but I'm beginning to think this can't be
>> >> resolved. And it's been this way ever since I downloaded the latest
>> >> version.
>> >
>> > If there is a problem you're the only one to have found it, so we
>> > need to know how to recreate it.
>> >
>> > To answer your other question, you can't use Time Shift Tool
>> > without a mouse, but there is an alternative here:
>> > http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Nyquist_Effect_Plug-ins#Time_Shifter
>> > .
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Gale
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thanks for the help thus far guys, there might yet be a way out of
>> >> this.
>> >>
>> >> On 8/13/13, David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Eric,
>> >> > you say that you selected a track, and tried to select a time. What
>> >> > did
>> >> > you
>> >> > do to select a time?
>> >> > You can time shift a track by using one of the commands on the Align
>> >> > tracks
>> >> > sub menu, which is on the tracks menu. For example:
>> >> > 1. Move the cursor to where you want the audio to start. You can do
>> >> > this
>> >> > for
>> >> > example by using the [ key during playback, and then pressing
>> >> > spacebar
>> >> > to
>> >> > stop.
>> >> > 2. Open the tracks menu, open the align tracks sub menu, and choose
>> >> > align
>> >> > with cursor. The audio in the selected tracks will be time shifted
>> >> > so
>> >> > that
>> >> > it starts at the cursor position. Any tracks which are not selected
>> >> > will
>> >> > be
>> >> > unaffected.
>> >> >
>> >> > David.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Cc:
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2013, 17:28
>> >> > Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: A Timing Problem
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, I unchecked sink locked tracks, slected a track and tried to
>> >> > select a time. After doing so, the unselected track automatically
>> >> > moves with the selected track.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've heard something about a timeshift tool which might be helpful,
>> >> > but I don't know what it does or if I have one.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry if I'm being unclear.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 8/11/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> | From Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> | Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:02:43 -0600
>> >> >> | Subject: A Timing Problem
>> >> >>> For some reason, the time problem persists. I'm not so sure now
>> >> >>> it's
>> >> >>> a
>> >> >>> sinked problem, as it is like this by default when I got the
>> >> >>> latest
>> >> >>> version. Does anyone have this problem with the latest?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can you write out steps to reproduce the problem?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How are you time shifting the tracks?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gale
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On 8/4/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > | From Johchi <Johchi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> > | Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:39:45 -0400
>> >> >>> > | Subject: A Timing Problem
>> >> >>> >> David,
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> This too is another informative post. I wonder if the Audacity
>> >> >>> >> developers
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> ever thought of having a bunch of tips to come up for new
>> >> >>> >> Audacity
>> >> >>> >> users.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > What is your suggestion - Tip of the Day or something like that?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Generally it is best to use the documentation:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Audacity Manual:
>> >> >>> > http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > David's JAWS Guide:
>> >> >>> > http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-2.0.3-Guide.html
>> >> >>> > .
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Gale
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> On 8/3/2013 5:46 AM, David Bailes wrote:
>> >> >>> >> > Hi Eric,
>> >> >>> >> > if you are using one of the commands on the align to sub menu
>> >> >>> >> > which
>> >> >>> >> is on the tracks menu, then only the selected tracks should
>> >> >>> >> move.
>> >> >>> >> > One exception to this is if the Sync-Lock Tracks option on
>> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> > tracks
>> >> >>> >> menu is checked. If this is the case then if one or more tracks
>> >> >>> >> are
>> >> >>> >> selected, then all the tracks will move.
>> >> >>> >> > > David.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>> >> > From: Eric Lueck <echodash19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> >> > To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>> >> > Cc:
>> >> >>> >> > Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 3:59
>> >> >>> >> > Subject: [audacity4blind] A Timing Problem
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > This has probably been answered before, but I couldn't find
>> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> > solution in an Audacity wiki or any of the forums, so I hope
>> >> >>> >> > to
>> >> >>> >> > find
>> >> >>> >> > one here.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > I have the latest version, 2.03 I think it is. Anyway, my
>> >> >>> >> > problem
>> >> >>> >> > is
>> >> >>> >> > that my tracks are automatically aligned and shift in the
>> >> >>> >> > same
>> >> >>> >> > time
>> >> >>> >> > for both when I try adjusting. I've tried deselecting tracks
>> >> >>> >> > and
>> >> >>> >> > switching the times on those, but with no success. So does
>> >> >>> >> > anyone
>> >> >>> >> > know
>> >> >>> >> > how I can change time on an individual track without
>> >> >>> >> > effecting
>> >> >>> >> > any
>> >> >>> >> > others?
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > Thanks.
>
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