[atlantaprog] Re: atlantaprog Digest V1 #66

Allen is right on.
The reason radio airplay weighs more heavily in those formulas is due to the 
tight control and documentation of radio playlists, which must be reported 
to the PRO's on a monthly or quarterly basis.  That playlist data is what 
mostly determines payouts; it's mechanical royalties -- 6 cents per play, 
anytime, anywhere.  Think about that one next time you hear "Cry Me a 
River"...

Most clubs (and restaurants) pay a simple structured membership fee to a PRO 
for protected and legal access to that PRO's catalog.  It's not based on 
what is actually played in the club -- it's almost an honor system-type 
agreement between a venue and the PRO.

So in essence, PRO's are mostly about protecting artist income based on 
recordings.  That being said, I don't think this particular area of the 
music biz is any more or less fair towards artists than any other area.  
Which essentially means that all areas of the music biz are more or less 
equal in their cheating of artists :?)




>From: Allen Welty-Green <agmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: atlantaprog Digest V1 #66
>Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:31:42 -0400
>
>But you know what? The formulas ASCAP (and BMI) uses to pay OUT the
>money that most clubs pay IN is grossly unfair. The distribute it
>according to which songs are getting the most airplay - NOT which songs
>are being actually played in the clubs. For instance, Joe's Bar and
>Grill may have singer-songwriters come in from time to time and play
>their original tunes... which the singer/songwriters have registered
>with ASCAP. The bar is required to pay ASACAP & BMI fees, but Justin
>Timberlake and Eminem are getting the $ because they're getting the
>airplay. The singer-songwriters aren't getting squat.
>
>
>On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 06:29 AM, Wheat Williams wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry about the guy and his business, but how else are songwriters
> > supposed to make a living if they can't earn royalties on performances
> > of their songs? Selling sheet music? Not in this day and age. ASCAP
> > enables musicians to earn a living! Otherwise a composer would have to
> > go around to every bar in the country himself, frequently, and persuade
> > the owners to pay him a couple of dollars for his songs.
> >
> > --Wheat Williams
> >
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:52:06 -0700 (PDT)
> >> From: Randall Castello <randall_castello@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: atlantaprog Digest V1 #65
> >>
> >>
> >> I knew a gentleman who ran a bar and booked live shows there
> >> infrequently and was constantly harrassed by ascap about registering
> >> his venue and paying annual fee's and what not. The bar owner pleaded
> >> with them that all music performed was original, but then ascap pulled
> >> the "happy birthday" bit and subsequently, the owner stopped booking
> >> live music and his buisness suffered tremendously..He eventually had
> >> to close for buisness.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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