[atlantaprog] Re: atlantaprog Digest V1 #179

I think the 5 spot is a good choice. Some jazz friends of mine have told me
that it's a great space to play creative original music. 
Jez GrahamAt 02:03 AM 10/18/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>atlantaprog Digest     Sun, 17 Oct 2004        Volume: 01  Issue: 179
>
>In This Issue:
>               [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>               [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>               [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>From: "Brain21" <brain21@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:53:27 -0400
>
>Oh!  I didn't know that the Brandy House was Pay to Play.  That sucks.
> 
>What about a place like the 7 Stages right next to the Variety Playhouse
>in L5P?  Pretty interesting place and they have had bands in there
>before.  THey have a little stage.  Everytime that I've gone in there
>there was no band playing, and it was kinda dead.   They might *need*
>business!  :-)
> 
>Alex F
>-----Original Message-----
>From: atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allen Welty-Green
>Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 3:27 PM
>To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS
>CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>From what I've heard, Brandyhouse is a pay-to-play set-up. I think some
>ARIA bands have played there and were required to pony up a couple
>hundred bucks, regardless of what the door took in. I am philosophically
>opposed to pay-to-play, that's why I was luke-warm about CJ's (Matthew
>ended up shelling out several hundred dollars out of his pocket during
>the duration of the CJ's series because the door didn't generate enough
>to cover CJ's fee. To me, if you want to RENT a space, that's one
>thing... but if you are playing at a place that is making bar income
>from your audience, then you shouldn't have to pay. It's demeaning to
>artists.
>
>At least Curtis only wanted a $50 soundman fee. That's OK.
>
>If someone knows any different about Brandyhouse, please enlighten me.
>
>It is my intention to contact the Five Spot, a new eclectic music venue
>in L5P that specializes in niche genres and doesn't charge a cover. I
>also want to contact Jake's Toadhouse. If I strike out at both of those
>places, then it's up to one of ya'll to pick it up!
>
>AWG
>
>On Oct 16, 2004, at 2:11 AM, Brain21 wrote:
>
>
>
>Why don't you try the Brandy House.  I bet that they would be
>receptive....
>
>
> 
>Alex F
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>
>From: atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allen Welty-Green
>
>
>Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:43 PM
>
>
>To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS
>CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
>THE CRACK HEADS AND COKE DEALERS WON THE FIGHT.......................
>
>I though the fight was with the neighborhood Association? they probably
>want another vintage clothing store.
>
>The fight, from MY perspective has been with short-sighted owners. I
>can't for the life of me fathom why a rock club on L5P square - of all
>places - isn't thriving! From my experience, Curtis was a shallow-minded
>headbanger type of guy. I know that, during his tenure as 9-lives
>booking person, he didn't handle things in a professional manner. A
>complete lack of vision, not returning phone calls, telling one person
>one thing and another something different, not living up to verbal
>agreements, lying, etc. It doesn't surprise me that he blames the
>denizens of L5P square, whom he derisively refers to as crack heads and
>dealers, for his own failures.
>
>In the long run we're better off not having to deal with him, but now
>that means we're back at square one in regards to building a
>relationship with a club.
>
>To be honest with ya'll, as much as I'd love to see it happen, I'm not
>sure I'm up to the fight!
>
>
>
>
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>
>From: Allen Welty-Green <agmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:24:25 -0400
>
>Actually I'm intimately familiar with 7 Stages. They're a *real* 
>theater (plays and such), not a concert venue. They do rent out they're 
>space from time to time but it's usually to other theater companies. 
>Because of my relationship with them, Z-Axis has done occasional events 
>there, but they are a rental facility (and it ain't cheap).
>I am going to approach the Five Spot in L5P, Jake's Toadhouse, and 
>perhaps Red Light Cafe about an ARIA series. If none of them bite, then 
>I'm throwing in the towel and hope that someone else tries to get 
>something going. You have been warned!
>
>On Oct 17, 2004, at 9:53 PM, Brain21 wrote:
>
>> Oh!  I didn't know that the Brandy House was Pay to Play.  That sucks.
>>  
>> What about a place like the 7 Stages right next to the Variety 
>> Playhouse in L5P?  Pretty interesting place and they have had bands in 
>> there before.  THey have a little stage.  Everytime that I've gone in 
>> there there was no band playing, and it was kinda dead.   They might 
>> *need* business!  :-)
>>  
>> Alex F
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allen 
>> Welty-Green
>> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 3:27 PM
>> To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS 
>> CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> From what I've heard, Brandyhouse is a pay-to-play set-up. I think 
>> some ARIA bands have played there and were required to pony up a 
>> couple hundred bucks, regardless of what the door took in. I am 
>> philosophically opposed to pay-to-play, that's why I was luke-warm 
>> about CJ's (Matthew ended up shelling out several hundred dollars out 
>> of his pocket during the duration of the CJ's series because the door 
>> didn't generate enough to cover CJ's fee. To me, if you want to RENT a 
>> space, that's one thing... but if you are playing at a place that is 
>> making bar income from your audience, then you shouldn't have to pay. 
>> It's demeaning to artists.
>>
>> At least Curtis only wanted a $50 soundman fee. That's OK.
>>
>> If someone knows any different about Brandyhouse, please enlighten me.
>>
>> It is my intention to contact the Five Spot, a new eclectic music 
>> venue in L5P that specializes in niche genres and doesn't charge a 
>> cover. I also want to contact Jake's Toadhouse. If I strike out at 
>> both of those places, then it's up to one of ya'll to pick it up!
>>
>> AWG
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2004, at 2:11 AM, Brain21 wrote:
>>
>>
>> Why don't you try the Brandy House.  I bet that they would be 
>> receptive....
>>
>>  
>> Alex F
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allen 
>> Welty-Green
>>
>> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:43 PM
>>
>> To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS 
>> CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> THE CRACK HEADS AND COKE DEALERS WON THE FIGHT.......................
>>
>> I though the fight was with the neighborhood Association? they 
>> probably want another vintage clothing store.
>>
>> The fight, from MY perspective has been with short-sighted owners. I 
>> can't for the life of me fathom why a rock club on L5P square - of all 
>> places - isn't thriving! From my experience, Curtis was a 
>> shallow-minded headbanger type of guy. I know that, during his tenure 
>> as 9-lives booking person, he didn't handle things in a professional 
>> manner. A complete lack of vision, not returning phone calls, telling 
>> one person one thing and another something different, not living up to 
>> verbal agreements, lying, etc. It doesn't surprise me that he blames 
>> the denizens of L5P square, whom he derisively refers to as crack 
>> heads and dealers, for his own failures.
>>
>> In the long run we're better off not having to deal with him, but now 
>> that means we're back at square one in regards to building a 
>> relationship with a club.
>>
>> To be honest with ya'll, as much as I'd love to see it happen, I'm not 
>> sure I'm up to the fight!
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Allen Welty-Green <agmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:28:41 -0400
>
>Did I really say "they're" space instead of "their" space? I must be 
>more tired than I thought!
>
>On Oct 17, 2004, at 11:24 PM, Allen Welty-Green wrote:
>
>> they're
>
>
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>End of atlantaprog Digest V1 #179
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