[atlantaprog] Re: atlantaprog Digest V1 #178

We just got contacted by them about two weeks ago -- after sending them a kit 
in April.
If they're pay to play, they aren't trying very hard....


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Subject: atlantaprog Digest V1 #178

atlantaprog Digest      Sat, 16 Oct 2004        Volume: 01  Issue: 178

In This Issue:
                [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: from curtis
                [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: from curtis
                [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:43:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: BK Broyla <bkbroyla@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: from curtis


Allen Welty-Green <agmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dave Wendalowski was the owner and through all the years of running  
> the club he borrowed money from his semi-wealthy parents to pay the 
> bills. the club was over run with drug dealers and drug takers, 
> losers, freeloaders etc...
>  
> After playing there for 6 years and working there for almost a year, I 
> never met one single person who had the clubs best interest in mind. 


> The rift that came between him and Ted Lathangne was simple, Ted 
> cleaned up and got off drugs and Dave didn't...after that, they could 
> not get along anymore and that is the true reason Ted left.
>  
> Drugs drugs drugs and more drugs, I've watched it go down night after 
> night after night. well, it's over now and all of the drug dealers 
> will have to find another place to do their business.


The owner of the club had a drug problem, and this guy is complaining about all 
the other people taking and dealing?!  WTF?  Sounds like these guys are the 
"freeloaders, losers, and drug takers".  Maybe they should invest in a mirror 
to see the source of the problem.

Brian

 


                
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From: Allen Welty-Green <agmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:26:52 -0400

 From what I've heard, Brandyhouse is a pay-to-play set-up. I think some 
ARIA bands have played there and were required to pony up a couple 
hundred bucks, regardless of what the door took in. I am 
philosophically opposed to pay-to-play, that's why I was luke-warm 
about CJ's (Matthew ended up shelling out several hundred dollars out 
of his pocket during the duration of the CJ's series because the door 
didn't generate enough to cover CJ's fee. To me, if you want to RENT a 
space, that's one thing... but if you are playing at a place that is 
making bar income from your audience, then you shouldn't have to pay. 
It's demeaning to artists.
At least Curtis only wanted a $50 soundman fee. That's OK.

If someone knows any different about Brandyhouse, please enlighten me.

It is my intention to contact the Five Spot, a new eclectic music venue 
in L5P that specializes in niche genres and doesn't charge a cover. I 
also want to contact Jake's Toadhouse. If I strike out at both of those 
places, then it's up to one of ya'll to pick it up!

AWG

On Oct 16, 2004, at 2:11 AM, Brain21 wrote:

> Why don't you try the Brandy House.  I bet that they would be 
> receptive....
>  
> Alex F
> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allen 
> Welty-Green
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:43 PM
> To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS 
> CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> THE CRACK HEADS AND COKE DEALERS WON THE FIGHT.......................
>
> I though the fight was with the neighborhood Association... they 
> probably want another vintage clothing store.
>
> The fight, from MY perspective has been with short-sighted owners. I 
> can't for the life of me fathom why a rock club on L5P square - of all 
> places - isn't thriving! From my experience, Curtis was a 
> shallow-minded headbanger type of guy. I know that, during his tenure 
> as 9-lives booking person, he didn't handle things in a professional 
> manner. A complete lack of vision, not returning phone calls, telling 
> one person one thing and another something different, not living up to 
> verbal agreements, lying, etc. It doesn't surprise me that he blames 
> the denizens of L5P square, whom he derisively refers to as crack 
> heads and dealers, for his own failures.
>
> In the long run we're better off not having to deal with him, but now 
> that means we're back at square one in regards to building a 
> relationship with a club.
>
> To be honest with ya'll, as much as I'd love to see it happen, I'm not 
> sure I'm up to the fight!


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From: Allen Welty-Green <agmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: from curtis
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:28:37 -0400

It sounded to me like the "crackheads and dealers" he was referring to 
were apparently the customers of 9-Lives, rather than the street 
denizens of L5p square...

On Oct 16, 2004, at 3:43 AM, BK Broyla wrote:

>
>
> Allen Welty-Green <agmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  > Dave Wendalowski was the owner and through all the years of running 
>  > the club he borrowed money from his semi-wealthy parents to pay the
>  > bills. the club was over run with drug dealers and drug takers,
>  > losers, freeloaders etc...
> >  
> > After playing there for 6 years and working there for almost a year, 
> I
> > never met one single person who had the clubs best interest in mind.
>
>  > The rift that came between him and Ted Lathangne was simple, Ted
>  > cleaned up and got off drugs and Dave didn't...after that, they 
> could
>  > not get along anymore and that is the true reason Ted left.
> >  
> > Drugs drugs drugs and more drugs, I've watched it go down night after
>  > night after night. well, it's over now and all of the drug dealers
>  > will have to find another place to do their business.
>
> The owner of the club had a drug problem, and this guy is complaining 
> about all the other people taking and dealing?!  WTF?  Sounds like 
> these guys are the "freeloaders, losers, and drug takers".  Maybe they 
> should invest in a mirror to see the source of the problem.
>
> Brian
>
>  
>
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:20:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: BK Broyla <bkbroyla@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When LO played there with Noise we didn't pay anything, AFAIK.  
 
Brian

Allen Welty-Green <agmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From what I've heard, Brandyhouse is a pay-to-play set-up. I think some 
ARIA bands have played there and were required to pony up a couple 
hundred bucks, regardless of what the door took in. I am 
philosophically opposed to pay-to-play, that's why I was luke-warm 
about CJ's (Matthew ended up shelling out several hundred dollars out 
of his pocket during the duration of the CJ's series because the door 
didn't generate enough to cover CJ's fee. To me, if you want to RENT a 
space, that's one thing... but if you are playing at a place that is 
making bar income from your audience, then you shouldn't have to pay. 
It's demeaning to artists.

At least Curtis only wanted a $50 soundman fee. That's OK.

If someone knows any different about Brandyhouse, please enlighten me.

It is my intention to contact the Five Spot, a new eclectic music venue 
in L5P that specializes in niche genres and doesn't charge a cover. I 
also want to contact Jake's Toadhouse. If I strike out at both of those 
places, then it's up to one of ya'll to pick it up!

AWG

On Oct 16, 2004, at 2:11 AM, Brain21 wrote:

> Why don't you try the Brandy House.  I bet that they would be 
> receptive....
>  
> Alex F
> -----Original Message-----
> From: atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allen 
> Welty-Green
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:43 PM
> To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS 
> CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> THE CRACK HEADS AND COKE DEALERS WON THE FIGHT.......................
>
> I though the fight was with the neighborhood Association... they 
> probably want another vintage clothing store.
>
> The fight, from MY perspective has been with short-sighted owners. I 
> can't for the life of me fathom why a rock club on L5P square - of all 
> places - isn't thriving! From my experience, Curtis was a 
> shallow-minded headbanger type of guy. I know that, during his tenure 
> as 9-lives booking person, he didn't handle things in a professional 
> manner. A complete lack of vision, not returning phone calls, telling 
> one person one thing and another something different, not living up to 
> verbal agreements, lying, etc. It doesn't surprise me that he blames 
> the denizens of L5P square, whom he derisively refers to as crack 
> heads and dealers, for his own failures.
>
> In the long run we're better off not having to deal with him, but now 
> that means we're back at square one in regards to building a 
> relationship with a club.
>
> To be honest with ya'll, as much as I'd love to see it happen, I'm not 
> sure I'm up to the fight!

                
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From: Allen Welty-Green <agmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Fwd: 9 LIVES IS CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 16:34:10 -0400

Hmmm... I hope I'm mistaken!
On Oct 16, 2004, at 4:20 PM, BK Broyla wrote:

> When LO played there with Noise we didn't pay anything, AFAIK. 
>   
> Brian
>
>
> Allen Welty-Green <agmedia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From what I've heard, Brandyhouse is a pay-to-play set-up. 

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