[atlantaprog] Re: This list has become tiresome - touch my monkey,
- From: "paul schumacher" <pms1030@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:21:35 +0000
Billy Joel, like Jim Morrison, was and is essentially a lounge singer.
They sing pseudo-showtunes and use a kind of horrid pseudo-intimacy (nudge-nudge, wink wink). There is not just an artificiality but a falseness about this (bogus emotions; bogus dramatics) and also an elitism (we're the cool people; nobody who doesn't "get" this is as cool as we are) than makes my skin crawl.
Paul
>From: Jeff Blanks <jblanks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: This list has become tiresome - touch my monkey,
>Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:04:00 -0400
>
>>Billy Joel is the Antichrist.
>>
>>Wellll, not quite, I think that bit of ignobility should be
>>reserved for the likes of Air Supply (WIMPS!) Peter Cetera
>>(SUPER-WIMP that destroyed Chicago beyond repair!!!)
>
>What's wrong with wimpy? Plenty of prog is wimpy, including some of
>the best of it.
>
>As for Peter Cetera, the problem can be traced to one song, "If You
>Leave Me Now", which, yes, told me something terrible had happened
>to my first favorite band, but not because it was wimpy.
>"Saccharine" and "bland" are a bit more like it, but even there,
>that's in the ear of the listener. More importantly, it seems that
>Columbia Records decided in the wake of the success of "If You Leave
>Me Now" that Cetera should be the "face" of the band and that his
>songs would be pushed as the singles. Chicago trombonist/brass
>arranger/early hit single writer Jimmy--excuse me, "James"--Pankow
>will tell you that, at least. (Note: Pankow wrote "Just You 'n'
>Me", sung by Cetera on *Chicago VI*, so maybe it goes back that far,
>in a way. But even that tune is a little more substantial than the
>usual pop fare.) (Trivia: That's Pankow you hear on Toto's
>"Rosanna".)
>
>>Billy Joel had a good run up until 1980, then after that, it was
>>down the sewer!
>
>Didn't *The Nylon Curtain* come out in 1982? From what little I
>know, that's one of his best albums.
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Billy Joel, like Jim Morrison, was and is essentially a lounge singer.
They sing pseudo-showtunes and use a kind of horrid pseudo-intimacy (nudge-nudge, wink wink). There is not just an artificiality but a falseness about this (bogus emotions; bogus dramatics) and also an elitism (we're the cool people; nobody who doesn't "get" this is as cool as we are) than makes my skin crawl.
Paul
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