[atlantaprog] Re: Sad Day

Thanks Hal,

To answer your question first lets say you have DSL for this first part.


To setup a station you have many different options, first you need to
decide which option is right for you. Setting up a station on your DSL
line requires the software for automation which depending on what you
use can cost quite a bit. I use a program called SAM (Streaming Audio
Manager) which costs $199.99. The program runs the automation part by
selected the rotation of the songs as well as sends information to my
website updating to the current track playing. It also creates the
playlist and allows for requests. 

Second you need to figure out how you're going to stream it. Stream
hosting costs are rated by the streaming rate (example: 56K) and the
total amount of listeners allowed. If you were to setup a stream at 64K
with 10 listeners it would cost around $20 just for the hosting. In
addition to that you'd have to pay ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, and now RIAA/Sound
Exchange. 

You can avoid using any stream host, but remember you are using DSL and
you are limited to the upload speed. 

Another way I found is to use Live365 and up until June 1st I was able
to stream at 56K to as many as 200 or more listeners. Since June 1st the
limit for the plan I am currently on is a maximum of 10 listeners. The
price is around $20 plus the preferred member to avoid the ads that come
across so my total for that is $25 per month. 

If you include the DSL line into the cost and if course before you have
a DSL line you need a phone line too. I believe for around $150-200
(phone, DSL, and Live365) when using Live365 as the source you can setup
a station. 

Lastly I'll revert back to the do-it-yourself section. Let's say you
didn't want to use any automation software and wanted to setup for 10
listeners at 24K stereo. You simply would need WINAMP 2.X, and Shoutcast
server. The shoutcast server is an add-on to Winamp 2.X that allows you
to stream using your computer as a server. I did this for a few months
at first, but found that when it reached close to 10 listeners there
would be major dropouts due to bandwidth limitations. Wimamp would work
as the player that would play the playlist and the shoutcast server
would send it to Shoutcast website for people to tune in. This way is
the easiest way to do it, but remember that if you setup your own
station and have your own website you will be required to pay BMI,
ASCAP, SESAC, and RIAA the royalty fees. 

Royalty fees for the RIAA are 7 cents per song, per listener. You all
being musicians and by default the RIAA is your representative in
collecting such fees. 

Lastly if anyone is using Winamp version 3 might I suggest going back to
version 2.9X for version 3 I don't believe sounds as good as version
2.9X and you cannot currently run a station stream using version 3. I've
actually been listening to my station using version 3 and closed it and
opened version 2.9X and found that the sound was much better.

You've just attended Introduction to Internet Radio with your host Greg.
To learn more about streaming internet radio you can email him directly
or give him a call.

Hope this was informative. 
 

Greg Stafford
The Prog Palace - Progressive Rock Radio
http://theprogpalace.com

-----Original Message-----
From: atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:atlantaprog-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon Jester
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:24 AM
To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Sad Day

Greg what is the monthly cost for operation of the station?
And I hope you can stay here, we will miss ya if you have to leave.
We appreciate every thing you have did for us.
Hal

Greg Stafford wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>For those who do not know I have been out of work since May. I was
>turned down in receiving unemployment and have been working on finding
a
>job and to keep things going. My efforts in this have not been
>successful. 
>
>At this time, after serious consideration as to how to proceed I find
>that my options are limited. I feel that I must suspend the station
>until such time I can afford to continue. To make things worse the
>computer I've been using for the station has crashed leaving me with
>using this computer to operate the station for now. It also looks as
>though it will be necessary for me to move as well. I am working hard
to
>stay, but if I cannot I will be moving to Florida. 
>
>In difficult times there are difficult situations. I will stay with my
>parents until I can find employment and can make it on my own. Once I
>get settled on my own, I can then work towards bringing the station
>back. Atlanta is great and I'd like to stay and continue the original
>plan I had when I began, but at the moment I find that this is
>difficult. I've put a lot of time into this and it's hard for me to
>quit, but I don't see a choice as to how I can continue. This week I
>will make every effort possible in order to stay in Atlanta, but I only
>have a week left.  
>
>In the event I do move I want to thank everyone for being so great and
>to let you all know I had a great time here in Atlanta. Thank each and
>every one of you for your great friendship and I hope that things go
>well with all of you. 
>
>The station will play one more week and will then be suspended. I hope
>that it doesn't come to this and I can continue, but for now this is
the
>plan. 
>Take care,
>
>Greg Stafford
>The Prog Palace - Progressive Rock Radio
>http://theprogpalace.com
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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