Harold, I agree with you. Personally, I rejected all so-called prog rock after the mid-70s - with the heavy-handed pomposity of late-years-Yes, Genesis, etc. (nope, I never liked them, even with Gabriel) - and punk rock coming along to fly in the face of it. Only recently (past 4-5 years) have I begun to give the genre a second chance - I was missing out on a lot of good stuff. I'm still fairly ignorarnt of what all's out there, though .... So, I like "post-progressive". ALSO, PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO BRING MY STUFF TOMORROW NITE. Thanks, mab Best wishes, Mark A. Baker Manager Title Department (GA/TN) Morris, Schneider & Prior, LLC 3300 Northeast Expwy., Bldg. 8 Atlanta, Georgia 30341 Phone 770-234-9181 ext. 404 Facsimile 678-805-5051 >>> htimms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 11/12/02 07:11PM >>> I second Allen's suggestion that we adopt the term "Post Progressive" here's why: 1. The term is in general use in some circles and has a published definition that IMHO hits the nail on the head. 2. The word "Post" implies after which in this case tacitly implies post all of the pompous 70's nonsense that gave the genre a bad name to begin with while also suggesting a less myopic view of the genre's elements. Harold Timms Z-Axis > >Oh, man, you wanna come up with a better name > or a better definition > >of "prog"? > > Well I, for one, embrace the term. We in Z-Axis > dub our sound as > "post-progressive" (defined on the ragnarock > site as "characteristic > of artists that, although influenced by classic > 70's prog, mix into > their music a number of entirely new elements > such as minimalism, > electronic experimentation and ethnic styles.") > > The problem with the term "progressive rock" is > strictly a marketing > one. Mainstream press has done such a good job > of vilifying the genre > (thanks to the ammunition provided them by Yes, > ELP, Floyd et. al in > their overly pompous heyday) that many people > don't really "get" > what this music is all about. The name becomes > a liability in some > circles. Heck, even Fripp refuses to > acknowledge his own role in > creating and defining the genre! NEARfest > skirts the issue by using > the term "Art Rock". It has been pointed out > that this term often is > used to describe bands like Velvet Underground, > and Roxy Music, so it > may not be the best alternative either... thus > my plea for finding a > new name... >