[atlantaprog] Re: Here's our chance...!

Hey Beth,

     I know that CJ's has undergone almost a complete overhaul as far as 
their band-related staff goes,  so it may be that your inquiry was 
received by the old regime when the back room was being coordinated by 
Gary and Fran Mann.  I think that Phil (the owner) has a bit of input on 
who plays now,  but the man to talk to these days is Curtis Clark,  who 
many of us may remember from the Dark Horse Tavern,  pre 10 High.
     Also,  I think timing is everything.  When I talked to Curtis 
several weeks ago,  Karma Lingo was a definite no-go for a gig,  but 
when he sent out an email this week looking for ideas for his slow 
nights,  I was able to get my foot in the door.
     Anyhow,  if Noise.com would like to participate,  just have'em drop 
me an email and I'll put them into the rotation.

Thanks and see you soon!

Matthew


PS  That goes for all the ARIA bands out there!  Please write to me and 
let me know if you want in on this CJ's deal!




Beth Folland wrote:

>I have to vent here....CJ's is one of the places I contacted before about a 
>monthly prog deal so I'm a bit fumed that its suddenly being handed to someone 
>else...BUT....I will admit that its a great opportunity!  
>I do think that 'Noise.com' would like to be included to play one of those 
>Thursday nights Matthew:-)  Anyway...glad to hear about this...even if it bugs 
>me in a way;)LOL
>
>Good luck with it...since its Thursday there's no chance of me ever getting 
>there....sorry!  Two hours each way won't fly on a week night. :-(   
>
>PEACE
>Beth
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Bill Kargel 
>  To: atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:26 AM
>  Subject: [atlantaprog] Re: Here's our chance...!
>
>
>  Sadly, I won't be able to make the ARIA meeting
>  (working)...  :-(
>
>  However, just a short comment on what Matthew has
>  brought to the proverbial table:  
>
>  "Nothing ventured, nothing gained."
>
>  The monthly "prog night" gig is practically being
>  handed to us on a silver platter!  And a nice, clean
>  venue in Butthead, I mean Buckhead, no less!  :-P
>
>  I don't know about the rest of you, but I think we
>  should be all over this one like white on rice, like
>  ugly on an ape, like flies on...well, you get the
>  idea, I think!  ;-)
>
>  I will pay my five bucks and be there in October!  :-)
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Bill
>
>
>  --- Matthew Trautwein <absolute_music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  wrote:
>  > Hey everybody!!!
>  >   >        This is Matthew from Karma Lingo with a
>  > late-breaking opportunity 
>  > for all of us!  KL has been so busy doing everything
>  > else <but> Karma 
>  > Lingo in the last year or so,  that this summer has
>  > found us in the same 
>  > situation that many of the ARIA bands seem to be in
>  > at the moment:  we 
>  > can't <buy> a gig in Atlanta by hook or by crook!
>  >        Less than a month since KL was told by CJ's
>  > Landing that they 
>  > couldn't afford to book us because our draw wasn't
>  > big enough,  Curtis 
>  > sent out an email over the weekend trying to drum up
>  > some support for a 
>  > heavy metal karaoke night he's trying to get going
>  > on Mondays (sounds 
>  > like fun,  actually!).   In it he asked for some
>  > other ideas for his 
>  > Monday nights at CJ's,  so I wrote him back and
>  > pitched the monthly prog 
>  > night idea that we've all been talking about for
>  > awhile.  He emailed me 
>  > within an hour to say that he was interested...
>  >       I called him today,  and we had a good long
>  > about it.  While he's 
>  > got a few conditions and is going to pretty much
>  > leave it to us to run 
>  > and promote the event,  he likes the idea and he's
>  > going to give us a 
>  > monthly <Thursday> if we can make it fly.
>  >       The test case will be 10/23,  and while I'm
>  > still waiting to hear 
>  > back from everyone in KL,  the line up would be
>  > Karma Lingo and Paine's 
>  > Promise for this first one (I talked to Veronica
>  > today,  too,  and 
>  > they're totally in).  
>  >       If the show turns out to be a success,  I'd
>  > like to act as the 
>  > ongoing organizer for this event, even on the nights
>  > when Karma Lingo's 
>  > not playing.  We <all> need this gig,  and the only
>  > way we'll get it and 
>  > keep it is if we all commit to coming out once a
>  > month to support each 
>  > other.
>  >       Here's how it will work:  Thursdays are no
>  > longer a regular "band 
>  > night" for CJ's these days (weekends only, 
>  > apparently),  so Curtis will 
>  > run sound and supply a bartender for the back room
>  > for a guarantee of 
>  > $100.  We supply someone to run the door (between
>  > the sound desk and the 
>  > bar,  I think),  and we charge a $5 cover and handle
>  > all of the guest 
>  > list/freebies issues.  If we get 20 paying customers
>  > and cover his 
>  > costs,  we get the gig;  if we don't,  we still pay
>  > him $100,  and we 
>  > don't get the gig;  pretty simple.  Any money we get
>  > beyond the first 
>  > $100 we split between the two bands (and he wants to
>  > keep it to always 
>  > being two bands).
>  >      He's into the idea of making it an early night
>  > (as are some of the 
>  > ARIA folks,  I think),  so we're going to keep it to
>  > hour-long sets with 
>  > the first band going on at 8:00 and the second band
>  > going on at 9:30. 
>  >  That will give the second band a full half hour to
>  > set up (same as 
>  > Roguefest),  and we'll all still be out of there by
>  > 11:00 PM or midnight.
>  >      I think we can make this happen,  but it only
>  > <will>  happen if we 
>  > all make the commitment (and stick to it!) of
>  > getting out of the house 
>  > once a month and coming down to see the show, 
>  > <especially> on the 
>  > nights when our group isn't playing.   I know I've
>  > not been the best 
>  > about getting to all the ARIA meetings,  myself, 
>  > but this is an 
>  > opportunity for all of us,  and if it works over the
>  > long term,  it'll 
>  > mean a regular gig for each band every three for
>  > four months that we can 
>  > all plan for and count on.  
>  >      As I said above,  I'd like to be the ongoing
>  > organizer for the 
>  > event,  and assuming that we get past the first one,
>  >  I plan on being 
>  > there for every single show.  Hell,  I'll run the
>  > door...
>  >      If we can get this thing rolling,  I'd like to
>  > set up a regular 
>  > rotation of bands,  so if this is a commitment that
>  > you think your band 
>  > can make,  please drop me a line and I'll slot you
>  > in.  The key to the 
>  > whole deal is that we make this an event that we all
>  > go to every month, 
>  >  so let me know your thoughts...
>  >      I'll be at the ARIA meeting for a little while
>  > tomorrow,  but I'm 
>  > going to have to take off after a little while, 
>  > hence this long email! 
>  >  I'm actually going to write up the details for this
>  > situation so that 
>  > the folks who come to Manny's tomorrow night will
>  > have some hard copy to 
>  > take away with them,  so please come out and let's
>  > get some dialogue 
>  > happening!  If we can make the event fly,  there'll
>  > be a lot of 
>  > potential and a lot of possibilities,  for
>  > ourselves,  and for 
>  > regional/national/otherwise touring bands as well.  
>  >      But we gotta get ourselves on the map first; 
>  > go team!
>  >        > See you all tomorrow!
>  >   > Matthew Trautwein
>  > Absolute Music
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