[atlantaprog] Re: Glass Hammer

Nice reply.

Thanks.

The usual feedback I get when saying this is, "YOU SUCK!  YOUR MOTHER SUCKS!  YOUR CATS SUCK!"  And so on.

From:  Mark Stephens <musicoptimist@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To:  atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To:  atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:  [atlantaprog] Glass Hammer
Date:  Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:13:48 -0800 (PST)

Paul was at least *partially* consolable when he got *some* of his money back on Glass Hammer's latest 2 CD release "The Inconsolable Secret"...
  
 
  
I readily concede that I prefer GLASS HAMMER's female vox - although none of their vocals particularly *bother* my ears.   Glad to hear you like Perelandra.  Many fans dislike that one for some reason.  (Drum sounds?  A little too dark perhaps?)  I *do* think GH has come a *long* way in terms of both vocal quality *and* production quality since "Perelandra" - but that is another discussion I suppose.
  
 
  
It may help to consider that the entire 2 CD set tells a story and the vocal style seeks to tell that story and convey its emotions.  Or it might not help, depending upon how important non-bombastic un-criminal vocals are to you I suppose...  ;-)
  
 
  
Whether they are getting *
better*
or *worse*... at least we both seem to *agree* that they aren't sitting still - simply "re-doing" Lex Rex and Perelandra over and over again!  ;-)
  

paul schumacher <pms1030@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  
  
  
  
I must disagree about Glass Hammer's "Inconsolable Secret."
  
I bought it on the strength of reviews, and the fact that I liked "Lex Rex" and "Perelandra."
  
"The Inconsolable" sucked.  Glass Hammer's worst weakness--vocals--were worse than ever.  The lead (male) singer was a bombastic criminal.  His vocal tirades drowned out whatever good instrumentals there were.  Even the female singers (usually the saving grace of GH's vocals) were infected, and stank.
  
I sold it instantly.
  
I wasn't inconsolable--I got some of my money back.  But
  I do
still regret the pain to my ears.
  
And I didn't want this to remain a secret.
  
Paul

  
  
  
    
From:  BK Broyla <bkbroyla@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To:  atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To:  atlantaprog@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:  [atlantaprog] Re: Give Me That Old Time Prog Rock
Date:  Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:59:12 -0800 (PST)
  

  
Yeah, there are obviously two definitions of  'progressive'-- moving forward, trying new things, etc.; or a certain  musical style.  As time moves on, the two inevitably come into  conflict.  I have heard so many arguments where someone i
s in
one  camp and they say 'this isn't progressive because [it's in the other  camp]'.  It would be simpler for someone to just declare which  camp they're in, either sound or philosophy, from the beginning and  leave it at that.  It reminds me of the old Troopers vs.  Generators clashes-- 'This isn't the true Yes because..."
  
  Personally, I think all the albums Jeff mentioned deserve to be classics, but whether they will be remains to be seen.
  
  Brian
  

Mark Stephens <musicoptimist@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:  
    
<New Prog - Flower Kings, Spocks
  Beard,
Glass Hammer, Anglagard -
artists who use the classic prog-rock vocabulary without bringing
anything really new to the mix,>  
 &
nbsp;  
 
    
There  is nothing totally "new" under the sun but in their own ways each of  those bands occupy a unique sonic place that no other band can replace  for me.  Then again, they may seem like interchangable cogs in a  big machine to you... That's OK too.
    
 
    
GLASS  HAMMER continues to get better and better IMO.  I highly recommend  "The Inconsolable Secret" - their latest 2 CD concept album. 
    
 
    
If  we aren't careful, we - as a fan base - can impose a bit of an  un-winnable proposition upon our favorite bands.  If a band is too  modern or *different* (especially with their *drum* sounds)  then the aren't true "prog"... If a band remains true to the  classic instrumentation
of prog, then they aren't  
truly  
"progressive" - even if they have excellent compositions and  performances.  
    
 
    
In  the end, I appreciate  talent, power, beauty, counterpoint, catchiness...   The list goes on and on.  No single band has it all - nor should  they! 
    
 
    
Mark Stephens
    

  
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