[askdba] Re: Seeking Advice.
- From: "Vinod Gopinath BMMI IT" <vinodg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <askdba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:51:19 +0300
You know what; it is really interesting to read mails from you all.. The
experiences shared, the knowledge transfer and many more..
Keep sharing your thoughts.
Thanks
Vinod.
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From: askdba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:askdba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Nisar Tareen
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:19 PM
To: askdba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [askdba] Re: Seeking Advice.
Vinod,
I will like to add one thing, what suboudh had said, he had given very
valuable advices.
Try to make time line like when you start how much the database sizes
are and how much is the growth in indexes what is the respose time and
what is the users expectations are. Take written aggrement else you
will play the handicap game with users all the time and they will blame
you.
But a cost factor eg. you want this much response Time than you need
this type of Disk controllers, disk types, Network bandwidth and index
reorganization.
Keep typical queries with you so you can test them your self have some
confident users with you who can help you and guide you, some will be
complaining all the time, some will give you wise advice and feedback
work with them. Be approchable not like (Siri ADP Payroll DBA
Manager for 2006) he is no more manager work and no one like to talk to
hime or work with him, as per my last info he was there with some other
user department so work with your team and try to make a win win
formula.
Subodh, I started as DBA in 1981 for Software AG. ADABAS Database, than
IBM SQL/DS dba, from1996 Oracle DBA till 2006 end my career, sick and
tired of certification / contracts Last Certification Oracle 10G. But
enjoyed each minute of my last 33 year of IT years. From IBM 360 to NT
and Unix Servers. 4 continents and 6 countries enough for this JaNaM.
Good LUck
Nisar Tareen
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From: Subodh Deshpande <subodh_deshpande@xxxxxxxxx>
To: askdba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 4:11:40 AM
Subject: [askdba] Re: Seeking Advice.
Nisar, Can not belive and ofcourse surprised with a happiness that we
have 23 yr old dba too :)
yes Vinod what Nisar is saying not involve in politics is absolutely
true, do not eantertain any sor of politics at work place.politics and
team management are very very different things, a good managerial skill
gives more opporitunites and empowers and enriches team in a positive
way in achiveing goals. Very badly in todays world, in sugar coated
words, politics at work place is some what nearly equal to 'professional
management' or 'skill of crises of management'. I discourage both the
words cause management is always professional so professional I do not
understand and 'crises' a good team leader is first a good team member
and if he/she is good he/she will not allow any sort of dirty games at
the work place and this is why there will not be crises or disputes.
About the attitudes of dbas many of the dbas reason for not keeping
documentation (list of atleast day today activities of each server) and
what is the problem history or when it was past crash such questions
asked they gives henky fanky answers, where as some of dbas do keep
documentation as a mechanical process with out understanding the need
and very rarely you will find that few could understand the
documentation is one of the 'deliverable' the important measurement of
billing, other wise you will not be able to show customer what exactly
the resource was doing at the workplace.
I think these are the few things you should remember apart from the
technical skills you have :)
thanks and take care..subodh
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From: Nisar Tareen <ntareen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: askdba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, 3 March, 2009 0:31:01
Subject: [askdba] Re: Seeking Advice.
Vinod,
Courses are good for your knowledge but only thing works good is your
experience in Production env. 90% on the time you will have no time to
refer the manuals. Every mistake has a big cost.
Have a better and good knowledge of the Application, that will be a
Plus, that's the way you can communicate with the Application teamand
highlight the issues in effective manner.
Certification of your environment will be a Plus. Don't get envolved in
the Politics, DBA can have lot fun from all the sides, Application,
Management, Network and operation team, tuff to get the trust of all ,
but once you have it in you, you will enjoy every moment, I can say
this after practicing as DBA over 23 years. (must be correct).
Good Luck.
Nisar Tareen
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From: Vinod Gopinath BMMI IT <vinodg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: askdba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 4:39:02 AM
Subject: [askdba] Seeking Advice.
Friends,
I want to move from DBA to Production Support Management. This I suppose
would be big leap for me as I feel this is a major stepping stone into
Senior Management Category.
Can some tell me what sort of courses/knowledge I should attain to reach
that level.
All comments are welcome
Thanks,
VG
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