Re: [artworks] ArtWorks PDF export, with text, to Xara
- From: Brian Bailey <bbailey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: artworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 13:24:52 +0100
In article <980eaf9a4f.martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Martin Wuerthner
<lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In message <4f9aa0e623bbailey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Brian Bailey
> <bbailey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > In article <4f99da7eacbbailey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Brian Bailey
> > <bbailey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> I have also loaded EFF Michael in Windows Xp, too, but seemingly
> >>>> without any effect. As far as I can tell most of the characters are
> >>>> displaying, except that instead of being formatted they are all
> >>>> heaped up one on top of the other, so to speak.
> >>> If so, then that is clearly a bug in Xtreme's PDF import (or, heaven
> >>> forbid, in its text formatting, which is my code ;-)). Does it
> >>> happen for all text in this font?
> > I think that there must be a bug. However, the manual is also very
> > unclear as to whether PDFs will load correctly or not. The manual
> > seems to saying that loading PDFs is a definite maybe.
> I have just tried it and it works perfectly for me both with Xtreme 3.2
> and 4.0. However, I could reproduce your problem (see below).
> >> I've only used Michael, so yes it does appear to be happening to all
> >> text. But, some text characters appear to be missing. There is no
> >> formatting. Ah, the lost characters are identical and if they are
> >> stacked they would not all be visible, I think that might be an
> >> explanation in part.
> > However, text exported from ArtWorks as shapes are editable in Xara in
> > the sense that individual shapes can be edited out and new text then
> > inserted in whatever font is desired. But I wish to edit text as text
> > directly, for simplicity. The recipient will wish to do their own
> > editing directly, too.
> Yes, and this just works for me, the text comes out in Michael and I
> can edit it in Xtreme. If you see shapes instead of text then this
> indicates that ArtWorks exports the Michael font as a Type3 font, which
> it only does if you do not have a proper EFF "Publisher" font with an
> associated Type1 file installed.
Well, I tried exporting text as both embedded fonts and as shapes in
separate files to see what the differences were.
> OK, I just tried it with a font that does not have a Type1 file and
> yes, Xtreme Pro 4.0 gets that completely wrong when importing the PDF.
> The text is imported as shapes but all the shapes are on top of each
> other. That is quite a serious bug in the Xtreme PDF importer.
> You can work around it easily by using an EFF "Publisher" font. All the
> fonts on the EFF Typography CD, including the Michael font that is on
> it, are "Publisher" fonts (i.e., they include a Type1 file).
> I suspect you either have an old version of the Michael font (once upon
> a time the "Publisher" version was more expensive than just the RISC OS
> font) or you may have chosen to not install the "Publisher" version of
> the font when installing it from the EFF CD.
Oh,ah, I was completely unaware of that and will have a look later. I
think that you could well be right. It is ages since I installed Michael.
All grist for the mill. Thanks.
Brian
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