[argyllcms] Re: "Washed" / low contrast colors on calibrated display
- From: "Frédéric Crozat" <fred@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:02:43 +0100
On Jan 7, 2008 3:39 PM, Graeme Gill <graeme@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Frédéric Crozat wrote:
>
> > Somehow, it has worked for her for years now, even when sending to
> > professional manufacturers (for stuff like boxes, etc..) But I guess
> > the color workflow could be improved (but I won't be the one
> > teasing her about that ;)
>
> Lots of people in the graphic arts industries have got by avoiding
> any color management for all of the professional lives. It usually
> means that someone else is doing it though (traditionally
> the scanner operators, pre-press and some degree printers).
Indeed : they are used to get their files in PSD (or Illustrator) with
the right colorspace set :)
> With the disappearance of scanner operators and the
> squeezing out of pre-press, and the vast expansion in number
> of color input and output devices in the modern world,
> it's got harder to avoid the issue though.
For now, we (Mandriva) have been able to avoid this issue.
Moreover, we have to provide backgrounds and screensaver which looks decent on
random joe monitor, which is almost never calibrated. Of course, they
won't look the same if
we were trying to compare each of the monitor, but that is not our goal.
> Those who are up to speed on color management are regularly
> horrified when they come across big time printing houses
> that can't answer the question "which CMYK color space
> do you want the files in ?".
Hehe..
> > I was speaking about images named : Mandriva-Powerpack-1024x768.png
> > (and so on). They aren't very bright (except maybe the right part of
> > the gradient).
>
> On my setup they are also relatively dark. Like the photo's,
> they only start to look OK if I view them in a completely
> dark room (ie. so that my eyes adapt to a lower light level).
> With ambient lighting of about the same brightness as my
> screen, they look slightly dark, and the blue is not particularly
> saturated. This is no surprise as the highest blue value
> in the background is 175/255. The logo and graphic on
> the right look to have perfectly acceptable contrast though.
Ok.
> > Yes, they've been tweaked ;) I checked those images with and without
> > calibration and they loose a lot of punch on "calibrated" display.
>
> It doesn't sound right then.
Ok, that is what I was wondering.. I guess I'll need to do more tests
on both monitor settings
and dispcal.
Thanks for your time.
--
Frederic Crozat
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