[argyllcms] Re: RGB Printer profiling and ColorSavvy CM2C
- From: "Alastair M. Robinson" <blackfive@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:22:34 +0100
Hi,
Graeme Gill wrote:
I'm working on the project partly for my own satisfaction, and
Yep, I'm familiar with that motivation :)
partly on the basis it's easier to convince people with a working
example, than by merely "telling them so". The latter approach
understandably gets their backs up ...
Sadly, yes. I for one will be watching with interest for your results
in the n-colour separation area ;)
It doesn't really change the problem, since the idea is that
the source gamut is contracted and expanded to the PCS gamut,
then the PCS gamut is contracted and possibly expanded to
the destination gamut. If the PCS gamut was a very large one,
and the source simply sat within it, then the destination
mapping would contract the whole colorspace (on the basis
of making the PCS gamut fit), reducing the colorfulness
of the result dramatically. The suggested standard PCS gamut
is a fairly large "printer like" one.
Yes, I do see the problem...
Yes it takes some time (about the same time as generating one
of the B2A tables of a profile), but it's not so bad at medium
resolution on a modern GHz processor. The end result is noticeably
smoother and more accurate.
Very interesting. Time to book some time off work methinks :)
> I have a theory that it is feasible, if the result is cached (on disk),
> and the user has some control over how "high quality" they want the
result.
>
> In practice, how often does it happen that every part of every job
> is a new, never seen before source color space ?
Very rare I would imagine.
I seem to remember being told, however, that Argyll can create the gamut
mapping based not just on the source profile's gamut, but on the
proportion of it used by a particular image. That's a particularly
intriguing possibility, but one that would perhaps necessitate a 3.6GHz
print server!
All the best,
--
Alastair M. Robinson
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Yep, I'm familiar with that motivation :)
partly on the basis it's easier to convince people with a working example, than by merely "telling them so". The latter approach understandably gets their backs up ...
It doesn't really change the problem, since the idea is that the source gamut is contracted and expanded to the PCS gamut, then the PCS gamut is contracted and possibly expanded to the destination gamut. If the PCS gamut was a very large one, and the source simply sat within it, then the destination mapping would contract the whole colorspace (on the basis of making the PCS gamut fit), reducing the colorfulness of the result dramatically. The suggested standard PCS gamut is a fairly large "printer like" one.
Yes, I do see the problem...
Yes it takes some time (about the same time as generating one of the B2A tables of a profile), but it's not so bad at medium resolution on a modern GHz processor. The end result is noticeably smoother and more accurate.
Very interesting. Time to book some time off work methinks :)
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