[argyllcms] Re: Question regarding gamut mapping for photographic images
- From: Gerhard Fuernkranz <nospam456@xxxxxx>
- To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:53:33 +0200
Greg Sullivan schrieb:
Hi,
Referring to this extract from a post to newsgroup sci.engr.color by
tlianza, in thread "Chromacities of digital photo-exposer":
"The final reproduction gamma of a reproduced image from an sRGB image through
a Frontier printer should have a relative gamma of 1.2 to 1.6
Hi Greg,
Argyll's perceptual intent involves a CIECAM02 appearance model.
Depending on the source and destination viewing conditions that you
specify, the relative luminance of mid-tones will indeed be changed by
this transformation.
A "dim" surround in the src environment (typical CRT viewing
conditions), combined with an "average" surround in the dst environment
(typical for viewing reflection prints) actually result in a lightness
mapping which corresponds to a relative gamma of circa 1.2 (but the
other specified viewing conditions play a role as well), and if the
surround of the src environment is assumed to be "dark" (e.g. projected
slides), the lightness mapping of the CIECAM02 model will even
correspond to a relative gamma of circa 1.5.
Anything less than that will yeild an image that appears flat and lifeless when
viewed at interior lighting conditions.
IMO this statement rather refers to the image on the monitor. On a CRT
in a "dim" surround, you need to display the image with darker mid-tones
than on a print, being viewed in an "average" surround, in order that
the printed image and the CRT image have the same appearance, i.e. in
order that the CRT image does not appear "flat", compared to the print.
And a projected slide (in a dark surround) needs to display the
mid-tones even more darker, to obtain the same appearance.
and the extremes of sRGB should be mapped to the
extremes of print material.
Depens. I would not be so sure. A perceptual intent is usually rather
not expected to expand the source gamut to the destination gamut in
those sectors, where the destination gamut is larger. I'm also not sure
whether a mapping of the extreme points of the sRGB gamut to extreme
points of the printer gamut might possibly introduce too large hue
shifts, which are no longer pleasing. However, there are not fixed rules
for gamut mapping - it's rather a matter of art, only the result counts,
and "pleasing" is a matter of taste.
For instance, for my taste Argylls lightness mapping produces too dark
mid-tones on devices which can't reproduce a very dark black, thus I've
raised the lightness knee point. And I've also changed the chroma knee
point to obtain less gamut compression for in-gamut colors.
Regards,
Gerhard
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Hi, Referring to this extract from a post to newsgroup sci.engr.color by tlianza, in thread "Chromacities of digital photo-exposer":
"The final reproduction gamma of a reproduced image from an sRGB image through a Frontier printer should have a relative gamma of 1.2 to 1.6
Anything less than that will yeild an image that appears flat and lifeless when viewed at interior lighting conditions.
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