Graeme, Thanks for the test evaluation information. Part of the difficulty with the ColorMunki is that X-Rite does not publish any detailed specifications about the relative performance of this instrument on their website; they do have data for the i1 (http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=1461&Action=Specifications). Thus, we don't know what the inter-instrument variability is, or what QA/QC procedures X-Rite use on CM prior to releasing specific units for sale. I have both a CM and the NEC branded i1 display that is configured for high gamut monitors. Until I started learning the ins and outs of the ArgyllCMS tools I have been using NEC SpectraVision II to calibrate my monitor. I get comparable calibration results with both instruments. I also have an i1 pro coming in next week (it has been on back order) and will also look to see how this performs. I have done some extensive paper profiling (Epson 3880) on two gloss papers (Museo Silver Rag and Ilford Gold Fiber Silk) and get better profiles with ArgyllCMS than with CM software as judged by both the gamut output and visual inspection of a test print (I used 980 patches and maybe going to higher patch values can refine these results). I'm not disparaging Ethan's test results since he only had one CM to test. Looking at his test methodology, it was quite sound. I don't think CM users should despair, it is a decent enough instrument. Whether the quality control at X-Rite is sufficient to assure minimal variability between instruments is unknown at present. Alan -----Original Message----- From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graeme Gill Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:00 PM To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Display Calibration Hardware Capabilities Rishi Sanyal wrote: > Anyone in Seattle with a ColorMunki or i1 Pro? I'm not convinced the > Munki is that bad b/c it generates reasonable profiles across my Dell > U2711 as well as my older Dell 2005FPW. Couldn't say the same for my > i1 Display 2, which just failed miserably on my U2711. FWIW, I've just run a simple test with the i1Pro's and the ColorMunki I have. I created a simple test chart with 5% device values + white, and ran it on my (dim) CRT. dispread -w -v -V disptest2_XXX The Y levels are around 0.1 cd/m^2. Cross checked the results with verify -n -v disptest2_XX1.ti3 disptest2_XX2.ti3 (the -n is to remove absolute luminance level calibration differences) So: (All raw Delta E) i1 Rev A vs. i1 Rev D: Total errors: peak = 1.566833, avg = 0.570788 i1 Rev A vs. Munki: Total errors: peak = 0.926322, avg = 0.315342 i1 Rev D vs. Munki: Total errors: peak = 0.908153, avg = 0.530078 So I'm not seeing much discrepancy between the Eye-One and the ColorMunki on low level readings. [I did note that black drift on the Eye-One's is a bit of a problem in measuring such low levels. You really do have to let the instrument acclimatise for a while.] Graeme Gill.