[argyllcms] Re: Determining proper error value for -r
- From: Ben Goren <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 16:32:08 -0700
On 2006 May 26, at 2:09 PM, Gerhard Fuernkranz wrote:
> Ben Goren wrote:
>
>> A low -r value (but, of course, not so low as to have real
>> trouble with noise) may produce more accurate colors at the
>> expense of smoothness in photographic images. A high -r value
>> will result in colors that're less accurate, but perhaps not so
>> inaccurate as to be noticeable outside of a side-to-side
>> comparison. I'm pretty sure from some preliminary testing,
>> though, that too high an -r value will start to cost you fine
>> detail, so it may remain something that needs to be tweaked
>> individually.
>
> Ben, I'm objecting the statement "a low -r value will produce
> more accurate colors". That's basically not the case. A low
> smoothness factor will indeed result in a model which fits the
> _training set_ with a low error.
Well, that's why I used ``may'' instead of ``will,'' and ``not so
low as to have real trouble with noise.
What I'm driving at is that, within the range of values for -r
which are at least large enough to be an accurate reflection of
the error bands of the data, the lowest value should, I think, if
I'm understanding it right, produce the most accurate colors. It's
also the value most likely to bump into non-linear properties of
the printer. At the other extreme, a value that's ridiculously
high will produce results more akin to not even profiling the
printer in the first place.
Cheers,
b&
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