[argyllcms] Re: Camera profiling?
- From: Ben Goren <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:37:37 -0700
On 2008 May 27, at 8:43 AM, Graeme Gill wrote:
None of this is to say that a profile won't help, just that it
cannot be perfect, and in general photographs are always going
to require some level of subjective adjustment, unless they are
all shot under identical conditions.
That was the idea -- one profile per lighting setup. For example,
there're a half-dozen wooden discs about 26" in diameter. Once I get
what I want for one, I'll just swap out the art works and keep
everything else identical.
Some of the larger, more abstract works will need individualized
lighting...but I'm willing to do one profile per shot if it's worth
it. It's not /that/ much of a hassle, compared to everything else
involved.
Note that a scanner is a much more controlled situation in that
the illuminant is fixed, and the characteristics of the test chart
can be adjusted to be similar to the type of media that will be
scanned.
I have both a ColorChecker and the scanner chart that comes with
the i1 Pro. Will either (or both) of those suffice?
Sure, but you may have to take particular care about the illumination
evenness, and may also have to manually get rid of any perspective
distortion (at least until the next release of scanin, which should
then take care of this aspect automatically).
I can take extra care in making the test chart perpendicular...and
there's always Photoshop if I'm off too far.
Will scanin give a recognizable warning, or should it just be the
first thing I assume is worng if it complains?
Don't be surprised
if they give different results though, since I think that the
ColorChecker (DC or SG ?)
It's the regular 24-patch kind
are composed of individual colorants,
while (I presume) the i1 pro scanner chart is some sort of print
process.
That was my first guess, but I can't see any hints of a halftone
screen or dithering, even with an 8x loupe. It's printed on glossy
photographic paper. (I'll have to be extra careful to avoid glare, I
guess.) Dye sub, perhaps?
I'll try an experiment in a bit....
Cheers,
b&
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None of this is to say that a profile won't help, just that it cannot be perfect, and in general photographs are always going to require some level of subjective adjustment, unless they are all shot under identical conditions.
Note that a scanner is a much more controlled situation in that the illuminant is fixed, and the characteristics of the test chartcan be adjusted to be similar to the type of media that will be scanned.
I have both a ColorChecker and the scanner chart that comes with the i1 Pro. Will either (or both) of those suffice?
Sure, but you may have to take particular care about the illumination evenness, and may also have to manually get rid of any perspective distortion (at least until the next release of scanin, which should then take care of this aspect automatically).
Don't be surprised if they give different results though, since I think that the ColorChecker (DC or SG ?)
are composed of individual colorants, while (I presume) the i1 pro scanner chart is some sort of print process.
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