Hello Klaus On 10-Jan-2011, Klaus Karcher wrote: > Graeme Gill wrote: >> It's only a likely behaviour if the black target curve is monotonically >> increasing (which needn't be the case), and adding black ink >> make the output darker. > > I guess this is essentially the assumption made by PM's black generation > algorithm: black is forced to be smooth an monotonically increasing ... > often at the expense of gamut in dark areas. That is pretty the same I was telling/suggesting in the other msgs, said better :) I.e making -k having this behavior, user responsibility at expense of gamut, and -K the opposite. Yes I know the question: so why don't I stay with PM ? 1) argyll gray shades are more smooth and less bumpy than PM, given a same used target for profiling. Even if argyll under some unlucky circumstances can generate bumps in the darks. 2) with argyll I can measure a strip long even 50 cm and patches as little as 8x6mm with my i1 pro and a custom ruler. With PM I simply can't, and I'm restricted to bulky charts, wasting paper and time (at least, if is there some trick I don't know!) 3) with argyll I can tweak parameters and I'm not limited to some basic, unchangeable programmer's choice 4) argyll is open source and free, and the author takes care of user's rants or suggestions or bug reports (and if one really wants, he can put his hands in the source code too). 5) the effort of Graeme and/or whoever else decides to start a so complex project is considerable and unvaluable. ...so that nobody can tell I'm just reporting problems, bugs or moans :) /&